Two Ancient Coin Attribution And Authentication Help Please.

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Roma2021 Pillar of the Community Italy 1130 Posts	Posted 01/04/2023 2:00 pm Hello, I bought a collection today and found these two. Based on my limited understanding of ancients I believe they may be authentic specimens, but attribution and authentication help would be greatly appreciated... I also found the two coins below the roman coins... I'm at a loss on these. If the two roman coins are authentic examples, should I soak them to bring out some detail or leave them as is? Thank you all in advance... Best, R. Edited by Roma2021 01/04/2023 2:03 pm Report this Post to the Staff

erafjel Pillar of the Community Sweden 2124 Posts	Posted 01/04/2023 3:23 pm 3rd coin is probably 1 sestino, Kingdom of Naples, Juana I, 1516-1519: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces51199.html Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34393 Posts	Posted 01/04/2023 3:38 pm I think that the other non-Roman coin is also from the Kingdom of Naples, as they have a couple coins featuring a Jerusalem cross with four miniature Jerusalem crosses in each quarter. Here are links to a couple examples, but we might be able to narrow it more if you post the weight and diameter. Thx. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces87273.html https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces119340.html https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces26248.html "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Roma2021 Pillar of the Community Italy 1130 Posts	Posted 01/04/2023 3:40 pm Thanks @era and Spence. That should help me narrow it down... I'll post weights tomorrow, I left my scale at the shop! @era, that's it. @spence, the reverse is completely worn down on the fourth coin...I doubt I'll be able to attribute it. Any ideas on the roman coins? Thanks again. Edited by Roma2021 01/04/2023 3:44 pm Report this Post to the Staff
erafjel Pillar of the Community Sweden 2124 Posts	Posted 01/04/2023 5:28 pm The Romans: Top one is Constantius II, Fel Temp Reparatio type, mint Aquileia. RIC VIII 119 http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric....19?lang=en), 120 or 149. Second one is an antoninianus, Maximian, Concordia Militum type, not sure about the mint. Maybe RIC V 621: http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.....621?lang=en Report this Post to the Staff
mylimebug New Member United States 45 Posts	Posted 01/04/2023 5:29 pm Constantius II & Maximianus Report this Post to the Staff
Roma2021 Pillar of the Community Italy 1130 Posts	Posted 01/04/2023 6:24 pm Thank you!! No reason to doubt authenticity, right? I still can't manage ancients, but each post and reply on this forum helps a lot! I bought them in this lot... Report this Post to the Staff
erafjel Pillar of the Community Sweden 2124 Posts	Posted 01/04/2023 6:47 pm I can see you will have a lot of fun going through that box, Roma. I see no reason to doubt the authenticity of any of the coins.They look fine to me. Report this Post to the Staff
Roma2021 Pillar of the Community Italy 1130 Posts	Posted 01/05/2023 5:20 pm Hello, As I learn to attribute these a bit better on my own, I notice two or three points which maybe someone can help with. 1) My example of this coin does not have a mint mark, no XXI etc. on the reverse. Maximian, Concordia Militum: https://www.coincommunity.com/go/li....621?lang=en 2) the Constantius II coin has a very silvery appearance, but it is listed as Bronze or Billion; if I had to choose which coin was bronze vs billion, I'd easily pick the Maximian not the Constantius; however, I do completely understand and match the attribution on this one . . . Any thoughts would be appreciated. I really value having this forum to discuss these things. Best, R. Report this Post to the Staff
erafjel Pillar of the Community Sweden 2124 Posts	Posted 01/08/2023 10:09 am Quote: My example of this coin does not have a mint mark, no XXI etc. on the reverse True. It is apparently a "fraction", not an antoninianus: http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.....16b?lang=en There you also have the Kε mintmark for Cyzicus, 5th officina. Quote: the Constantius II coin has a very silvery appearance, but it is listed as Bronze or Billion These coins contain a tiny amount of silver and they got a thin silver surface when issued to look better. Some of that surface may still be there (or someone might have tampered with the surface later to improve appearance). Report this Post to the Staff
Roma2021 Pillar of the Community Italy 1130 Posts	Posted 01/08/2023 2:22 pm Thanks @era...I take it these are both fairly common. A colleague is interested in them and I may move them along. I appreciate it! Report this Post to the Staff
erafjel Pillar of the Community Sweden 2124 Posts	Posted 01/09/2023 08:13 am The Constantius II type is a common one, yes. Fractions (or post-reform radiates which is a more accuarate name) are actually not that common, the issues were much smaller than for antoniniani (I am learning about these coins as I type ... ). Prices do not quite reflect that though - perhaps they are just not as attractive as their larger counterparts. Here is an example similar to yours: https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ro...Default.aspx Report this Post to the Staff
Roma2021 Pillar of the Community Italy 1130 Posts	Posted 01/09/2023 1:51 pm Thank you very much @era...you are a wonderful help. I like the accessibility of these coins to collectors. Affordable is a positive. Prices interest me but only in a cursory way. Thanks again. Report this Post to the Staff
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