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Opinions On A 1794 Large Cent - Apple Cheek Variety

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 Posted 01/05/2023  1:59 pm Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would appreciate your thoughts on this S-24 large cent. The reverse is pretty flat, possibly in part because of the depth of the cheek on the obverse die. It obviously has issues, but I'd like your grading opinions.

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 Posted 01/05/2023  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i agree that its S-24. its an R-1.

most 1794s are weak on the back. like you said the head is really high relief.

i think it would slab at fine details. possibly vg if the graders were having a grumpy day. those rim bumps are the problem. otherwise its quite nice. the surfaces are smooth and attractive. I think I would EAC net it to a 6.

i dont have an S-24 so id keep this one if it came through my retail inventory. I dont think I would buy it with the intention of keeping it though. its a fairly common variety and rim bumps are one of my least favorite kinds of damage. I dont mind environmental problems, but I do dislike mishandling problems. thats a personal preference thing. many people feel differently.
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I repeat what has been said: S-24 is always stronger on the obverse than the reverse.
You coin is an extreme example of that, however. The reverse is very weak. I have an S-24 with an obverse which is similar to yours, but the reverse on my coin is stronger.

The surfaces seems to be free of corrosion, pits, roughness or verdigris. However, the edge bumps do detract.

Because of the discrepancy between obverse and reverse strike, grading it is not easy: All in all, I would give it F12, maybe F15 on details alone, netting down to VG10 because of the edge problems.
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I'll say F details (rim issues), but a handsome example nonetheless.
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I'll go with F-details (rim damage). The contrast between the detail on the obverse and reverse is quite profound.
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Thanks everyone. I had a tough time assessing this one because of how weak the reverse is, but that's the ballpark I was in. The rim bumps are definitely an issue, but they don't bother me nearly as much as the weak reverse.
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the reverse is most assuredly strike related. the obverse imo is in the F15 range. I think the rim is all if not all planchet related. the coin does have corrosion. again I believe planchet related due to era of transport across the pond.

I'm going with F details (corroded) still a nice example of the variety.
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F-12 details would be my guess.
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F-12 details (corrosion). Really nice obverse, but a really weak strike on the reverse.
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