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How Common Are The 1988-P And 1988-D Wide AMS?

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Hello everybody, it's been a while since I've been on here. I'm error/variety hunting currently and came across both a 1988-P and a 1988-D Wide AM pennies. I notice that PCGS recognizes it.

How common are these? Are they even an error/variety?

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What am I missing? I thought all 1988 cents were WAMs.
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I guess somewhere along the lines I picked up some misinfo.
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Actually, it is just a confusing variety ID. All 1988 cents are actually Wide AM, but those with the reverse of 1989 are called Wide AM because it is the reverse that was used on the later Wide AM coins. If they just called it reverse of 1989 it would have caused a lot less confusion!
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That is the normal reverse to be expected for the year.
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PCGS recognizes this variety as the "1988 Wide AM FS-901" which has a different alternate reverse (from 1989) on both the Philadelphia and Denver mints than the standard 1988 reverse in the variety version so there are several differences on the reverse to look for but typically identified easier from the FG initials on the reverse. You can take a look at the census for each coin on PCGS and NGC to see how many have been graded overall but the Philadelphia issues are considered scarce while the Denver issues are considered rare. https://www.error-ref.com/transitio...rse-of-1989/

See this thread as we just discussed this recently:
http://goccf.com/t/437728#3766859


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Coinfrog:What am I missing? I thought all 1988 cents were WAMs.


Yes they are but since there is an alternate reverse from 1989 that can be found there are differences in that variety from the standard 1988 reverse as mentioned.
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Yes, the 1988 is normally a WAM, but, they had planned on thanging the designers initials in 1989 to a slightly different location (closer to the Memorial) and a different font. BUT! late in 1988 the reverse dies were wearing out and the mint did not want to create more dies for the 1988's so they started using the 1989's (with the new FG designs on them) Little did the mint know that they created a WAM Variety for the 1988 cents.

If the mint had not decided to change the designers initials for the following year - we would not be having this discussion here now..
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Two different reverse die designs/numbers were year creating a year variety. (RDV-005 and RDV-006) Different initials design:
How-Common-Are-The-1988-P-And-1988-D-Wide-AMS?
And two different designs on the AME on AMERICA.
How-Common-Are-The-1988-P-And-1988-D-Wide-AMS?
The easiest way to spot the differences is the AME area.

CoopHome: What is the differences on the RDV-005 and RDV-006 on the 1988 year variety cents? the initials and the AME devices on America
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Thanks for correcting me!
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