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1773 Virginia Colony Half Penny - Is It A Fake?

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Hello all, long time lurker first time posting as I figured it best to join community and provide input where my skill set allows.

I recently found some time to dig through the various bags of misc. coins I have acquired through the years and came across this coin. I assume it is a remake or commemorative in some manner but it came from a lot with other genuine items and from a someone I know well and I know to be legit. I am skeptical but have included some photos here, I cannot find anything definitive online that has swayed my understanding in either way. I have wighed the piece and it is in the range of 7-8 oz. The color has me a bit weary as it shows alot of wear but has a copper like shimmer to it that you should see in photos or atleast I tried. Any help would be appreciated before I waste my time with it any further. Thanks and I hope to be a useful part of this community moving forward.
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 Posted 01/08/2023  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Please remove coins from holders before taking photos when possible. Also make sure to flatten those staples.
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Here are a few closer up photos. Trying to get better light.
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 Posted 01/08/2023  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say that is a fake, mushy, granular surfaces that look cast, and what appears to be some kind of base metal showing through.
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I say fake too, but for this one, you should be able to confirm it because it should have an incorrect weight.
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@don, first welcome to CCF. Second, as noted above, the details are a bit mushy. Any chance you could give us a much more precise weight on this piece? Thx.
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I will try to find a scale that will give me an accurate weight. The scale I have only does rounded grams and jumps from 7-8 grams.
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Invest in a good scale that reads down to 0.001 grams.
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Better photos would help. To me it looks like this coin was in the ground, for some time
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Thanks all for the responses and help on this! I wanted to be at least "somewhat certain" before I wasted time or money sending it in for at a minimum authentication. I will get some better photos and provide feedback on the weight ASAP.
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Hey Guys (and Gals)! Update, hope this helps the process of figuring this out. Here are some better photos not in the holder, let me know if these are good. ALSO, I was able to get an accurate weight on the coin and it has weighed out at 6.37 Grams. Thanks in advance!
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 Posted 01/12/2023  04:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still looks cast to me, and the weight is very low.
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Do you no think the weight is associated to the condition and wear?
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I think it is just a cast counterfeit. Have you checked the edge for a seam?
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