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Neat Fun Show Cherrypick - 1875 S-16 "Dot Reverse" Indian Head Cent

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I was able to cherrypick a few coins this week at FUN. Snagged an 1871 Shallow N Indian Head cent, a nice 1869/69 Indian Head cent and lastly this one....I have been looking for one of these for a very long time, and was able to find one in the wild at the FUN show this week.

The "Dot Reverse" 1875 IHC was likely used to track a thief working at the Philadelphia Mint.

Mint records show that a die was slightly and intentionally altered to mark coins made by one specific press one day when they suspected an older Mint employee to be stealing coins. Later that day, they searched that man and found a handful of coins that were made that day using the altered die. It is believed that the alteration was a punch to the die at the top part of the N in ONE on the reverse.

Widely searched for, only a few dozen have shown up over the last few decades. Pretty cool history associated with this one!

It is a shame the coin has been cleaned, but there is still a hefty premium associated with this one!

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Super nice example of a super scarce Snow variety. The "dot" on the N can be easily damaged in circulation, obscured by dirt, worn down or toned over, making it an even tougher find "in the wild" considering that 1875 isn't a common date to begin with. I have looked at many, many IHC's and never seen one in the wild.

71 Shallow N and 69/69 are not exactly bad finds, either!

The cleaning isn't that harsh. I don't think it significantly detracts from the coin, especially when the variety adds much more value than the base coin is worth in identical condition.
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 Posted 01/08/2023  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find, congrats!
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 Posted 01/08/2023  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice find !
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 Posted 01/09/2023  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've heard about these but never seen one...
Excellent pick-up!
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Nice find, congrats on your purchase.
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Nice one and thanks for the lesson. Which Snow # is the 1875?
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 Posted 01/09/2023  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RedRaider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the S-16 variety. I just looked on ebay, there is one PCGS UNC detail (altered color) listed for $4k. I don't think these detail coins are worth that much. I think Rick Snow recently had one in MS65RB, but it looks like he sold it last week. It was listed somewhere around $5500 if I recall correctly.
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 Posted 01/09/2023  08:50 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RedRaider - I've been collecting IHCs for nearly 40 yrs. yours might be cleaned but it's still way above average attractiveness. Nice cherrypick here.
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Congratulations on that cherry-pick!
This is also for me the first time I have seen one.
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Great story and nice find. Congratulations
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Good to get a smell of a bona-fide Score! Oh thats a nice one for sure. Now you have 200 more people looking at dealer boxes again LOL I had comp,easy forgotten about the 1875 "dot" variety and good to know its more than myth. ANACS...why not? Their as good as anyone for the proletarian collector...chuckle seriously though high 5 on your major cherrypick of a bona-fide unicorn.
This post will end up being looked at by the hardball hard-core big money Indian penny guys and Gals and I hope they chime in and blow some dust up on the forum. Mike Diamond where are you?
Folks...ahum excuse me as I stand up from my folding metal char and declare "this is news, big news big big news" send this post on to coin week coin news or whatever it would make an excellent article, they seem starved over there for material - last penny article was a generic rundown of 1974 Cent.
Lastly I want to thank you for giving some juice to the forum, I got juiced anyways and hope your very happy with this smart cherrypick.
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That's some story with the mint doing this to catch one of their employee.
Congrats on a great find.
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neat. thats a fun story. congrats!
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Fantastic find, RedRaider! By the way, did the seller know what they had?
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no the cleaning is not that bad at all.
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