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amjohnsonaz New Member United States 7 Posts	Posted 01/12/2023 11:33 pm Hi all, I found this penny in a 1963 Philadelphia mint set. The set was already missing the Franklin but the seal on the penny doesn't appear to be disturbed at all. I'm wondering how this might have happened? I guess my worry is wasting the $70 assuming it's an annealing mint error and it comes back with improper storage of some type. So any thoughts are appreciated. Edited by amjohnsonaz 01/13/2023 12:51 am Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 01/13/2023 04:23 am John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Keith67 Pillar of the Community United States 6586 Posts	Posted 01/13/2023 04:28 am Very cool Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 01/13/2023 09:05 am to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19183 Posts	Posted 01/13/2023 09:24 am Interesting. I've had similar toning/staining/other show on uncirculated and proof sets packaged by the US mint. Not often, but not unknown. This is one of the more extreme instances. I find the reverse curious as well. Report this Post to the Staff
amjohnsonaz New Member United States 7 Posts	Posted 01/13/2023 09:29 am Hi thanks for the welcome guys. I did search quite a bit for planchet errors, UFO, and annealing errors. I can't find anything like it. I've never submitted a penny. if it wasn't sealed I'd just throw it in a closet somewhere, so I'd guess it's the seal that's tempting me. Report this Post to the Staff
amjohnsonaz New Member United States 7 Posts	Posted 01/13/2023 10:35 am Hi ijn, Thanks. From your experience do you think it could be worth grading as a mint error, or is it just a random occurrence? Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96769 Posts	Posted 01/13/2023 8:33 pm It is possible that the entire pack was under or covered by something with a straight edge (sheet of paper or something) and the left half of the cent was exposed to light and started toning while the covered portions were protected. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19183 Posts	Posted 01/13/2023 8:41 pm Personally, I would submit the coin for grading--but do keep it as a fun curiosity. Report this Post to the Staff
amjohnsonaz New Member United States 7 Posts	Posted 01/13/2023 10:54 pm Thanks ijn I think I will do just that.Dearborn I have considered pressure, and light. A local dealer had suggested it, and I'm not saying it isn't possible because I bought it at an auction. So I honestly have no idea of the storage history to exclude PMD PSD. Edited by amjohnsonaz 01/13/2023 10:57 pm Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 01/14/2023 7:58 pm I agree with Dearborn, it looks like a sunlight issue. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188952 Posts	Posted 01/14/2023 10:01 pm to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
amjohnsonaz New Member United States 7 Posts	Posted 01/15/2023 3:18 pm merclover, It could definitely be PSD from light but it would almost have to have occurred before it went in the bag right? I mean the copper couldn't just disappear? The other thing is that the missing copper lines don't line up anywhere front/back/sides. I also think we'd see a lot of check out this penny I left in my car change coming out of Arizona/California? Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96769 Posts	Posted 01/15/2023 3:53 pm I think that there is no 'missing' copper, just toned darker (the left side, the 'Liberty side - the right side, the date side still has the red mint color and luster. On the reverse the cent had sat on top of another coin mostly protecting it. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 01/15/2023 4:01 pm The reverse is funny. Between the left corner and U in United it is a line (incuse or rise?) and also under cent who go to the rim. I made the lines and seem to be a perfect circle. The question is not the tarnish, it is those lines I mention are Rise or incuse or just tarnish? Report this Post to the Staff
amjohnsonaz New Member United States 7 Posts	Posted 01/16/2023 12:16 pm I am not much of a Penny expert, so please forgive me. There is evidence of tarnish. I think silviosi knows what I'm saying though. Those lines make the copper maybe 100μm higher (complete guess). Report this Post to the Staff
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