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Indian Cent Please Grade (1900)

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It would be extremely rare to find a 1900 Indian in that kind of condition. Is it a copy? Have you measured, weighed, otherwise, checked it's authenticity?
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im almost thinking its cleaned somehow there is some hairline scratches but I cant really tell. I put it on here hoping the usual crowd would be able to give me some opinions.
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Actually, a 1900 Indian cent in that sort of condition is not uncommon..
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is some hairline scratches but I cant really tell


This come from Die polish, very characteristic. Double check on weight and diameter will confirm the authenticity.

I do not think it is a fake one this. The folks here who analyze the design can put the fingerprint.

From point of view of rarity: In this condition it is very scarce but is know that at least 100 to 150 still around. This coin was the bigger strike in number, and majority of the very high grade show an re-polish Dies.
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I don't think that this is polish. It appears that there are hairlines in the obverse left field.

My grade is UNC details, cleaned.
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Your coin was not clean, was restored. Different. As a owner of a lab who restore artifacts I can see this on spot. Lighter BN color yes for the moment, we will talk in 5 years if stay as it is.

If you clean a coin with this alloy will become yellow tint or very light pink color.

The hairs you see it is Die polish and the all coin show an old Die. The hairs was on the Die when was struck the coin, do not confound with cleaning coins marks. to compare: your 1901 has same hairs right to the E. Sorry RedRaider

I like more the 1903 coin then the 1901 which you has.
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This coin is also the subject of another thread the OP has started, and frankly I'm getting confused. OP is now showing other IHCs for comparison.

No further input from me.
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silviosi have a 1863 IHC in a NGC slab UNC details with spot removed on the label that looks pretty much the same as coin in question.
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COIN is right, what is the tours here?
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i cant get the pictures to look like the coin in hand ill just return it, thanks for the input
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Your coin was not clean, was restored. Different. As a owner of a lab who restore artifacts I can see this on spot.


I agree with this comment. I think it took a trip to a Conservator. It shows some scratches and so forth that does show it's age.

Great observation there silviosi! It just didn't look quite right to me and now I know why!
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Actually, a 1900 Indian cent in that sort of condition is not uncommon


Perhaps my "condition" was higher than yours. Probably too high.
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Check the pops. Just saying.
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those hairlines look like they are crossing over some of the letters in UNITED STATES. the hairlines on nose and cheek look exactly like those in the field. I'm going with these are from cleaning rather than polishing.

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Where are you getting these low pop numbers. This is a very common coin for the IHC series in UNC condition. There are more than 600 graded RED at PCGS alone. More than 800 in Red/Brown!

This coin may have been restored, but it also has been cleaned. The hairlines are not from die polishing, they go through the letters which is indicative of a cleaning.
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