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1846 Liberty Seated Dollar

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 Posted 01/23/2023  05:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ez2c65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Gday all,
I'm attending to my late fathers estate and came across this 1846 Seated Liberty dollar.
Not sure on what grade it would be, so just asking here to see if anyone could give me a bit more info on it.

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 Posted 01/23/2023  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your reply was split into its own topic for the proper attention.
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 Posted 01/23/2023  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you give a straight-on close up photo? Hard to see much at that angle
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 Posted 01/23/2023  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The soft overall appearance and the bubbles on the stars look like casting. How much does it weigh?
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Larger, straight-on pics would help.



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All features of this coin point to the fact that it is a modern Chinese counterfeit.
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 Posted 01/23/2023  10:28 am  Show Profile   Check collector.detector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add collector.detector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a cast counterfeit to me.
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 Posted 01/23/2023  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ez2c65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some more pictures of the coin. Hoping it isn't a counterfeit, but these days you never know, that's why this site is invaluable, thanks in advance for all your comments and suggestions .
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Definitely a Chinese counterfeit.
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What is the weight of this piece, please?
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The weight is 17 grams
I've checked that the normal weight should be 26.73 grams.
So definitely a fake #128553;
Thank you all for your input &
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Yep, I suspected same. Weight is often times the most telling factor for collectors having a less educated eye for diagnostics.
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Wow, they even fake the wear and tear? That's, well, I don't know what to say. Is this something that you would need to be aware of, even when buying from your LCS?
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The date logo is comical, always a giveaway on these counterfeits.
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Swing and a miss...

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Is this something that you would need to be aware of, even when buying from your LCS?


Not likely, BUT I've seen an occasional fake in dealers' cases over the years. Local auctions and flea markets are where these fakes mostly appear. These typically show XF detail, but some, like the OP's piece, have been artificially aged in a tumbler. They typically exhibit a rather dull, gray coloration, too. The deciding factor for skeptical folks whom I've confronted has been the low weight differential.
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