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2023 Mid-January Release - A Tribute To An Extraordinary Life And Legacy

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It took a while to understand what was going on in this release. You have to look closely at the headings.
Anyway, I've re-ordered the brochure into these three sub-groups: Available to order, Available to 'pre-order' and coming soon.

Available to order in January:
$5 Silver 1/2 oz with colour portrait of QEII $34.95 mintage WSL - (while supply lasts)
$2 (twonies) in rolls $79.95 Mintage unlisted


Pre-Order:
Duty First $20 Silver $99.00 mintage 10,000
$1.00 Silver Dollar with gp 'Crown' $84.95 mintage 15,000
$300 4-portrait Obv: Platinum 1oz 99.95% $3,099.95 mintage 400
$200 - 1 oz Gold 'Royal Cypher' $4,199.95 mintage 400
3-coin set of $20 Silver coins $299.95 Mintage 7,500
$250 Gold with emeralds 2 oz 'A final sparkling Tribute' $8,259.95 mintage 225 (already awaiting stock 01/24)
$20 Silver with glass stones A final sparkling tribute' $159.95 mintage 8,000



Coming Soon:
Standard 6-piece (unc?) tribute set (no price listed)
(looks to be and unc set like usual, but with 'purple tribute' pkg. )
$50 'Remembering the Coronation' 5 ounce silver Price?, Mintage ?
$50 'Effigies of the Queen' 5-ounce Silver Price?, Mintage ?
0.50c Rolls Price?, Mintage?
Full set of rolls (5 rolls) Price?, Mintage?

As of Today (Jan 24) they are now visible on the website for me - Platinum Plus.
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01/24/2023 4:28 pm
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 Posted 01/23/2023  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smuglr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Dcadon I can't find the two items you mentioned being available. Are they not available to order yet? or are they only available at a higher level so far? Thanks.
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01/23/2023 5:21 pm
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 Posted 01/23/2023  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got the brochure today, and my first question to my rep will be - Why mail this out, if things aren't on the web-site yet?
As I said, as I was reading along, it seemed like a very jumbled mess of available, coming soon, and pre-order now.
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 Posted 01/23/2023  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Dcadon: Thanks for the update. I look forward to seeing the new SD.


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 Posted 01/24/2023  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New1954 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think RCM is trying to figure out the demand with pre-orders before issuing mintages. i, too, found the email I received from my rep confusing? do all the queen's new releases come in custom packaging?

Also, there are two new coins: 5 ounce high relief silver coin with three maple leaves and "Bird Box" kilo? coin which is really beautiful but out of my price range.
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 Posted 01/24/2023  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YesOrNo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the list.

I liked the design of 1-oz Imperial State Crown. However, the $160 coin has a large mintage of 8,000. RCM pricing strategy seems similar to last year's Unexplained Phenomena: a great design with a greater mintage increase. My verdict: this coin won't sell out soon but will sell out eventually after a few months.

I also liked the Special Edition Proof Silver Dollar. The mintage is reasonable at 15,000. However, the price increased by $15 from last year.

The 2-oz gold Imperial State Crown is the most stunning piece. Priced at $8,260, it's already sold at both RCM and CC&C.





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 Posted 01/24/2023  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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i think RCM is trying to figure out the demand with pre-orders before issuing mintages.

exactly my thoughts.
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 Posted 01/24/2023  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vonigohcr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks @dcadon for the update posting. One question though... you tag this as a Mid-January... this is the correct timing for the February release... With MC advance notice of a week, general availability will be next week... Jan31/Feb1.


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I can't find the two items you mentioned being available. Are they not available to order yet? or are they only available at a higher level so far?


I am MC-Diamond and all of the January order and pre-order items are available online when I log in... they are invisible when I am not logged in. They will release over the next week per your MC level.

As of this moment, the $300 1oz Platinum cypher and the $250 2oz Gold Imperial Crown are Awaiting Stock.

Regarding the Collectors Edition Non-Circulation Set... I theorize that this will be the last set that shows QEII and that the regular annual set will be released in May or later with KCIII obverse. I will buy this... because this set is part of my annual OCD appeasement but I really dislike the tag "Collectors Edition" because it is my experience that this marketing tag usually represents a product that is anything but appealing to "Collectors". I know... NCLT is all that way but this is akin to "Double Secret Undesirable Naming" with apologies to National Lampoon.
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vonigohcr said:
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you tag this as a Mid-January... this is the correct timing for the February release

Respectfully, the title on the brochure is "2023 Special Issue : Monarch Effigy", Further, I don't usually get the monthly issue until at least the 1st of the month, sometimes up to a week later.

I've edited the list to include the weight 1/2 oz for the $34.95 coin
and 'Awaiting stock' on the 2-ounce.

I am a Platinum Plus, and can see the products today (jan. 24), however nothing yet showing for the coming soon items.
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 Posted 01/24/2023  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vonigohcr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't get the printed brochure... I don't live in a major center and the printed materials are usually a few days later. The email I received was not as precise so it could have been either... If it is a special release.. then we will know in a few days. That said, I think it will be a non-standard year as the January release only had a SD and not the Premium proof set or non-circulated set as is customary.

The $34.95 coin with FV of $5 is listed online as a 1/4 oz and 27mm in size. It may be that there is a discrepancy between online and printed.
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 Posted 01/25/2023  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry 'bout that... should have been wearing my readers... 1/4oz is correct.... In addition.....

we got another email last night at 12:01

$175 fv Birds in a Shadow box: 711 gm 102mm dia $3,299.95 (about 25 ounces)
$50 Maple leaves in Motion 157.6 gm 65.25mm dia $ 649.95 (about 5 ounces)
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 Posted 01/25/2023  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the obverse of the Imperial State Crown SD with its four historical effigies of QEII, selectively gold-plated, but I think the over-sized typeface used for "CANADA" on the coin's reverse is overbearing and distracting. A slightly smaller font selection would have worked fine and been more tasteful (IMO).


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 Posted 01/25/2023  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smuglr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the heads up, everything came up today. I've been waiting impatiently for the rolls. I really like most of the reverse designs, but I'm not a fan of the obverse design. Also the 3 coin set designs aren't my favorites.
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 Posted 01/27/2023  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YesOrNo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone know the mintage of the $2 Special Wrap Roll? I received conflicting information: RCM says the mintage is unlimited, while CC&C says the mintage is 30,000.
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I was gioing to order the "2022 $20 The Imperial State Crown - Pure Silver Coin" @$159, and then found out that 99.99 Pure Silver is not really "pure silver" and the price jumped up another $24.
Sorry, but $185 for 1 oz of silver and a few glass beads isn't worth it. Maybe down the road it will be available on the secondary market for a more reasonable price.
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 Posted 01/28/2023  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mikem said:
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99.99 is not really pure silver


As far as the tax man is concerned - any silver coin, 99.99% will be considered as 'Fine' or 'Pure' silver, and will be free of HST and/or PST.

Sterling silver coins are 92.5%, which you may be thinking of, are treated differently, and taxes are applied. Also, when 'attachments' change the fineness substantially below 99.99%, then taxes are applied.
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