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1838 Capped Bust Half Dollar - Counterfeit

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I'm not very well-versed in these older coins, but this one is kind of like playing spot the big goof rather than looking for tiny details to show it's a fake. Anyway, what you can't see is that the edge has lettering with the vertical reeding between the words and weighs 11.53g. Kinda looks like it's cracked in one or two places as well.

1838 Capped Bust half dollar - counterfeit


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Goofy-looking for sure, thanks!
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This is a contemporary counterfeit, not a recent one.
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Pasty textured fields betray it.
Examination with a high powered loupe would confirm the betrayal.
OK to include in a 'black' collection for educational purposes, provided the low price is right.
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The obverse portrait is a solid giveaway of this 'coins' provenance.
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Ploopy is right, it is a contemporary counterfeit. Genuine examples in 1838 were struck with a closed collar, exhibit edge reeding, and have a smaller diameter. This coin looks is the earlier design type with the larger diameter and edge lettering.

You would probably like the resource, "Contemporary Counterfeit Capped Bust half dollars" by Davignon.
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As contemporary counterfeits go, this one's in pretty decent shape. There's a good book on these, with many varieties listed, year by year. Davignon was the author.

To my experience, these counterfeits typically trade for more money than low grade Busties. Rarer varieties can realize prices in the hundreds of dollars.
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Thanks folks! I had no idea there were enough of these to warrant a book about them. Possibly since they are collectible that is why I don't see very many. And I found the website that attributes them here: http://www.cccbhcc.com/variety-attr...n-guide.html



Yes, the big error on this one is pretty well spelled out by jacrispies. It has the wrong reverse and edge for an 1838. Lots of other little things too of course. Based on the ccCBHcc website I attribute this one as Obv. 3 Rev. E, which they note is probably the most common of them all which makes sense that it is what I have encountered.
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Since I had the website open, I went into my counterfeit collection to see if I had any more of those. Ended up finding just one more, a 1837 Obv. 2 Rev. B.
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