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Would you be more comfortable buying an expensive coin online slabbed by NGC stating "UNC DETAILS Cleaned" or the same coin in an ANACS slab that is graded and also states "Details"?
In this case, US Gold coins (circa 1890s to 1910) that would command from $1,000 to $3,000 depending on the grade.
The question is about your general opinion of the two company's grading practice for cleaned coins, and how if affects your confidence in purchasing, so I'm not offering specifics on the coins.
Thanks for your input.
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The plastic has no effect on my decision, I only buy based on the coin's appearance. I couldn't care less about what the label says.
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No way to answer this open-ended question without useless generalizations.  to the CCF! |
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The question pertains to online viewing as stated. The appearance of the coin online is largely dependent on the image provided and somewhat dependent on what device it is being viewed on.
The effect of cleaning may not be discernable from the image.
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I wouldn't be comfortable buying either without accurate images. As others have said, neither slab carries any more or less weight than the other. I'd base it solely on the coin. Not all "cleaning" is equal. I've bought coins labeled as cleaned in the past bc I felt them to be market acceptable and had good eye appeal. More times than not though, the "cleaned" designation is warranted and beyond what I'd consider buying.
Ultimately, an NGC or PCGS slabbed "details" coin may not carry the typical straight grade premium you see over ANACS, It all comes down to the coin, extent of the cleaning, and what someone is willing to pay.
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Is this an alternate way of asking if NGC holds more brand-market power than ANACS? In a very vague and general way; to many I suppose. But that isn't news.
But we are talking about a Details coin. whats actual damage like? Details are details and will discount a coin regardless of the label. A knowledgeable collector is going to focus on the coin rather than pay extra just because of the slab.
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In reply to Collects82....No, my question was in no way intended as a comment regarding the inputed value of one grading service over the other.
The question was simply asking for opinions on the preference between a coin being returned as "Details" compared to being returned as "Details" plus a grade.
Obviously, a knowledgeable collector is going to do his own evaluation based on the coin regardless of the grade given or lack of grade or source of the grade.
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I believe what Tony is referring to is that unlike NCG and PCGS, ANACS puts a numerical grade on their details coins. As I understand it, this should be read as "here's what ANACS thinks the grade would have been if not for the details qualifier". The other companies don't bother with a number.
So it's just an additional bit of data for the buyer, although it adds confusion because some might think it equates to a PCGS/NGC number, and it shows up in web searches when you specify a numerical grade range. That's my take on it anyway.
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ANACS gives you more information to go on. But then you have to consider whether they net-graded it. One coin in my recent submission came back MS60 Details Scratched. Technically the coin is definitely not MS60 without the scratch, more like MS63. To me they only said MS60 to designate it as uncirculated, so it's not any better than an NGC UNC Details Scratched. You're on your own with any Details designation. Do you have a more specific example?
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I don't buy Details coins. Saying that, I have to admit I have two. One is a Rarity-5 quarter that I cherrypicked raw off ebay. And I only had it slabbed for authentication purposes. The other is a high-value coin (catalogs about $15,000 with original surfaces) that I would not be able to afford otherwise. It was bought for my type set and cost considerably less than catalog. It's a 1796 Small Eagle Reverse dime. Edited by kanga
02/12/2023 09:41 am
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