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1853 25c Liberty Seated Quarter #8

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Thoughts? Thanks!

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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Crusty one. Like it. I am AU55
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Nice original coin. Looks like some soft rubbing on the high points. AU-58.
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Solid AU55, won't argue AU58. I like it!
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Au-58 I love the obverse die crack
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I like the toning and the die cracks, on both sides AU-58
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eye appeal is a component for grading so imo the coin would grade 58 but I have to knock it for eye appeal. AU55
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AU-58 looks nice to me!
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I don't own this coin and wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. When I saw it my first thought was that this coin didn't have any luster and at first glance looked XF45 or so. On closer inspection, because the remaining design detail was good, I was thinking AU53 or so, with the lack of luster and less than pristine surfaces holding it back. I thought the grade was surprising, when I saw gem 65 with a + designation to boot. Is anyone able to get to MS on this coin, much less Gem+? I wasn't. In the holder the coin - I believe - looks worse. Was this a bad day at the office for the graders or am I missing something about this coin? There are a lot of gem graded coins with low eye appeal. Not sure this is one of those. A lot of coins don't photograph well and look better in hand. In that case I guess I'll never know.

1853-25c-Liberty-Seated-Quarter-#8
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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woudnt touch this with a ten-foot pole. buy the coin not the slab is totally relevant for this one. someone was smoking something that day
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I sure can't get on board with this slab grade.
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Whoa! Yeah that's shocking.
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The grader must have been in a really good mood! I don't see it past AU-58. Certainly not 65+!
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Well, I agree with the slab.... it's an 1853 arrow and rays 25c. That's as far as my agreement goes.

Just insane.
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I will agree with PCGS on this one. Or in other words, graders who have actually seen the coin in hand.

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...s-ms-65-PCGS
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The "Stacks Bowers" link Everest provided helped me connect some dots, as this is part of the James Allaire Millholland collection. The graders may have been super "high" on the original owners collection. Watch the 20 minute link on an incredible collection, of just his proof coins, this individual collected. They are all, simply amazing coins.

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