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Norway 19x4 10 Ore Question

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Here is a coin in very poor condition.

It is Zinc - and they always wear badly. The date is 19x4 where I can't make out the decade - but I assume it is also a 4

However I can't seem to locate this coin in my Krause -- could anyone show me where I am going wrong?

many thanks



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In my old Krause, it's right there - KM#389 zinc, 1941-45 (1944 key date)..
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Hi - many thanks for that reply -- but in my version KM389 has a central hole?

Something is fishy though because although it says "Norge" on it -- it doesn't really look like the other 10 ore coins from the period
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03/10/2009 3:30 pm
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In my versions it's like this:

KM#389 - no hole (1941-44)
KM#391 - with hole (1942)

Maybe Krause changed the numbers later on?
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03/10/2009 3:31 pm
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Hi - Something is wrong with my Krause - that must be it -- (blame somebody else :D :D )

I've attached little bit of the page as evidence.

thanks very much for your help though



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yes ! - there is is in my older 1998 edition. I guess it must be an error in the 2006. --
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Which edition do you have Bacchus2? Is it very old? It may be that Krause renumbered the Norwegian coins at some point.

In mine (letest edition) KM#383 and KM#391 have holes. KM#389, as DL20K says, does not and is your coin.
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I see no page?
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Definitely the wrong pic in yours. What edition was that?
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Hi - the 2006 edition must be in error -- but my 1998 edition is ok

many thanks
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My Krause is incorrect here too. They list the occupation issue as zinc, but no picture is shown, and the series is incorrectly described as having a crown above the center hole. But there was no hole, and more importantly--the crown of Haakon VII was missing since he was in exile during the Nazi puppet regime of Quisling/Terboven. But, if you find any 10/25 Ore coins minted in 1942 with a crown--keep them, as they were issued by the government in exile and are valuable.
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Well here is the coin I have.

Image: Norway-19x4-10-Ore-Question 41Norway10Ore.jpg
87.05 KB

I have checked my 2005 Standard Catalog of World Coins, page 1575, shows KM#389 as a 1942 coin with center hole and crown over it and date below, with a weight of 1.2500 g.

I also have a 2008 Standard Catalog of World Coins, page 1583, shows no photo but says "Obv: Crown above center hole Rev: Value above center hole" for KM#389. They did add a KM#391 and used the photo from the 2005 catalog to show that coin.

I will send this data to Krause and will post the response I get from them, if any.
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Krause has used the picture for KM#391 also for KM#389. This coin (#391) was only made in 1942 and is as KurtS says valuable, in fact significantly more valuable than its Krause listing. $300 for XF is not an uncommon price locally even with the deterioration of the Norwegian Krone (it was worth 20 US cents this time last year, now only about 14)

KM#389 rightly looks like bacchus2s and jweisses coins. It is made of zink, although in 1941 they in fact used three different alloys before settling on the one they felt gave the best results. One of them was aluminium. Apart from the aluminium variation (which I personally have never seen) these coins are pretty common.
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