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87 Bearded Bird . Couple Quick Questions?

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 Posted 03/15/2023  2:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tommysens to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Don't worry this time there is a beard. I hope, it's my second 12 Dollar tin can special...Yay
So Is this a normal date (I can't figure out the hight yet)
Double BER. Perhaps double PLU and or double date?
It's got the small antler and small beard, I am trying to track down most the info on my own so don't be too annoyed with my nooobies you have all read a million times please and thanks
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That pic quality drops fast when the KB shrinks.
It has clashing on right wreath,the left wreath,the line up into the n and beside his left leg under the wing on the reverse. It has large clashing at the back of her head
Under her lip small bit under her chin.
Full 360 die crack both sides

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If this is a 87 Philadelphia Mint ( no mint mark on reverse) try these:

http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/1887-P_VAMs

http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/1887_P_CDLT

Your pics are not clear enough to see the small details to identify things. If you have a 10x magnifier use that to look at your coins closely and try to match them to those on Vamworld. If you don't have a magnifier you'll need to buy one if you want to get into Morgan VAM collecting. Sometimes details like letter transfer from clashing can't be seen without a magnifier.

Some of the more popular Vams are given descriptions like Bearded Lady, Spitting Eagle, Bearded Eagle, Hot Lips, etc.

Some of the pics on Vamworld are not complete, they don't show all the features so you have to compare your coin to what pics are there. Some varieties have no pics at all which makes it hard to identify every coin.

The wing clash by Liberty's neck is not called a beard. I can't see any beard clash below eagle beak or neck, I see a clash on top of eagle head which would be an "antler" clash. I wouldn't get too excited about the words beard and antler, what's important is the VAM variety number. Here's a list of beard and antler clashes with example pics, but it may not be complete.

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c..._Eagle_Clash
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The beards there three small ones at the Adam's apple you can kinda see them in that pic. I am in a small town and can't buy over 5x anywhere so I have to order one. I'm so impatient. From the coin so far I keep finding the clashes that are listed, The A is cut back to fit by the wing, the size of the neck space is unknown to me, I am not sure what is normal or not.
Does the coin look like it's in semi ok condition tho?



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my biggest issue is I want to see that E but It's really hard to see on the VAM 1B without proper magnification(also highly unlikely I have one) but whatever is there is a bit of a tease driving me crazy. Is it just random noise? I tried different color led to try to make the mystery bump pop.
I think the dark line it a tiny scratch that got my attention
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