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What Is This Note? Bank Of China 10, Not Found Anywhere Else

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I spent many hours searching "China" and "10" all over the internet, so I know this is not a common note since I could not find anything even remotely similar. Can anyone identify it exactly?
Thanks! =)

Although the note looks like plain white, it actually has an intricate geometric pattern in light blue ink all over the surface.

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 Posted 03/13/2009  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no expert on chinese notes but could this be a hell note (funeral banknote)?
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What is a "hell note"? Never heard of that before.
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Hell notes are paper money burned during funeral for the dead to bring to the next life. The Chinese also believe in burning paper cars, paper building, paper clotheds etc.
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Ahh interesting. I did a search for hell notes online, and I don't think this is one of them. The hell notes seem to be much more colorful and interesting. This one is plain and has the actual "Bank of China" that the hell notes do not. Also, it has the anti-counterfeiting ink designs as a real piece of currency would, which the hell notes do not.
Thank for bringing these to my attention.
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 Posted 03/13/2009  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope, it says training note.

If it was a hell bank note, it would say "Bank of Hell" or something like that and would be shoddily printed with bad (and lead-laden!) ink.

**Now that you can read the basics, here's more information. In China, cash is always used because

1. Banks don't trust people with credit cards, and people don't trust cards
2. Debit cards are only used to access the account only in the city it was created it. Use in other cities or areas would lead to fees
3. Everyone uses cash, and before a cash counting machine at every desk, tellers would have to count them by hand.

So, there's a training note. These are issued by every big bank, and in fact, DL20K has one from the Chinese Construction Bank. Tellers would count through stacks of these to increase their dexterity and speed with counting notes, and to safeguard from the tellers stealing actual currency, they use training notes.

These training notes' paper is similar to the 4th series note (which was also paper) because it was back then (before 1999) that banks didn't have so many counting machines. Now with the Mao (5th) series on cotton, more counting machines, etc there's less and less training notes. In fact, my aunt, who works for an accounting department in China, says that she hasn't seen any new training notes that mimics the design of the Mao notes.
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G'day,
"Zhong Guo", often written as one word, is the Chinese phrase meaning "China". It literally translates as "Middle Kingdom", but since 1949, the official translation has been "Middle State".
"Yinhang" = bank.
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True, and it has only been in the last twenty years or so that they have even used this legend on their banknotes.
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Wow.. Hell notes and Training Notes. Never heard of either before today.. very interesting!
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Thanks for the great info guys, and especially David for shedding light on the actual use of these notes. I wonder if it has collectible value, or is it just ephemera?
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 Posted 03/13/2009  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is cool ... I knew of Hell notes, but not training notes ... thanks!
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True, and it has only been in the last twenty years or so that they have even used this legend on their banknotes.


On Chinese banknotes it says the People's Bank of China, not Bank of China. Bank of China is a private bank and therefore can not issue its own banknotes in China. The last Bank of China issues were from 1948 or so.


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Thanks for the great info guys, and especially David for shedding light on the actual use of these notes. I wonder if it has collectible value, or is it just ephemera?


It might have value in the US and outside of China, but in China you can just ask for a pack of these.
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No, I mean the legend on the back, not the one on the front. The use of the English alphabet on Red Chinese notes is a relatively new thing, if I'm not mistaken. From 1949 to about the late 70s, it was always in Chinese.
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Not really, because on the back of Chinese notes it's in Pinyin, which is phonetic Chinese. If you look at one today, it's still Pinyin and the other 4 semi-official languages. The PRC has never used English on banknotes.
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I think what I meant to say was "Roman Letters". Pinyin in Roman Letters. There.
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It does say training at the back. It's not a hell note of any kind.
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