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1963 Lincoln Memorial Penny - Insight On Rough Grading And Things You Look For?

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Hey everyone, I've posted some pictures I took under the scope of a 1963 penny. I chose this coin for this post because there's a few things that one might consider when determining their opinion on the grade. It's a little older date, the coloring, decent condition and strike, but still some minor things that might go against it. I'm just looking to grow my knowledge a little bit on the things that the community looks for when determining a simple, rough grade estimate, and when you start considering having it graded. (Non-Error Coins) So yeah, sorry I probably went a little overboard on the # of pics, but any information, tips, suggestions, ect... Any and all would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

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The fingerprint alone,above the date makes it a spender.
Here is a link on grading:https://www.PCGS.com/photograde/
A coin needs a retail value after slabbing of at least $100 to justify all costs involved in sending it in.
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Photos show a light drizzle of dings and ticks across coin surfaces. High points are also showing circulation wear. The finger print isn't helping. Good photos by-the-way.
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light glare can alter the look of the surfaces to determine originality and color. do not use overhead lighting of any type to avoid that. it hides any signs of circulation. if you are going to post closeups using your scope I suggest to also posting a full straight on shot of the coin maybe with your phone which helps grading so we can see the entire coin.

i agree with the obv finger print. there are some minor ticks in the hair. significant amount of small hits on the coat shoulder and lapel. quite a few hits on the steps. during the 60's many have marks on the bottom step which is common. your coin exhibits some of these but there are excessive and deeper on your coin. some are die related here and some from banging around in a pocket or bag of coins.

when grading high end LMC's they need to be pretty much flawless to warrant value. this one is short of any value and as previously stated a spender. most LMC's need to be in the MS67 range to have any significant value. these coins cannot be found in circulation

AU58 or MS63 (color indeterminant) I'm not sure if it was circulated based on these photos.

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I'd say AU-58. Fingerprint detracts. Just worth face value.



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It's difficult to grade due to the colorization from your scope. I also see the dings and scratches. Also, his ear and hair shows significant wear. If the luster is good I would grade it higher but, from what I can see, I'm in the AU55 range or even a little lower. At the very least it's worth the copper. It would be a great hole filler.
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The temple, cheek and beard show a lot of wear. Obvious print above the date. On the reverse the cornice and steps also show a lot of circulation. I'm certain your light is too strong and cutting through the surface patina. I've seen many coins like this - I bet it's brown with the bluish color underneath.

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