Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Specializing in Modern Numismatics Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Stutter Ladder Notes?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 12 / Views: 1,398Next Topic  
Valued Member
luckyrollers's Avatar
United States
447 Posts
 Posted 04/04/2023  4:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add luckyrollers to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I brought 5 new $2 straps and got these notes. From what I understand, some people calls it a "stutter ladder note". Are they really called stutter notes? Read that some people collect these notes and they go above 3 to 5 times face value. Is that true?


Stutter-Ladder-Notes?


Stutter-Ladder-Notes?

Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 04/04/2023  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never heard that term, but none of these would be keepers for me.
Pillar of the Community
nfine's Avatar
United States
3471 Posts
 Posted 04/04/2023  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like an ebay label to me.
Pillar of the Community
datadragon's Avatar
United States
1648 Posts
 Posted 04/04/2023  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Check datadragon's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
So I brought 5 new $2 straps and got these notes. From what I understand, some people calls it a "stutter ladder note". Are they really called stutter notes? Read that some people collect these notes and they go above 3 to 5 times face value. Is that true?


Hi Vince, Reviewing a lot of opinions on the subject, some people might like to apply the word ladder also to stuttering ladders like you have such as 11234445 or even something like 11245779 with missing digits...as you see there the first problem with using the same term "ladder" is that people start to apply it to all sorts of things and eventually winds up covering almost anything if you're not careful, all of which are slightly similar to a perfect ladder like 012345678, 12345678, 23456789, or descending 87654321 and 76543210 mostly, and perhaps 98765432 back when it used to be printed.

Yes casual collectors out there may indeed want something like that for their private collection or willing to spend money on impulse because they think something is cool, and therefore can sell at a premium on places like ebay. So go for it since these are in great condition, but at some point a collector has to draw the line and so serious collectors will have done so and wont usually be interested in that type of note, and neither will dealers or grading companies. Otherwise there would be ladder progressives as some people would consider A00012345A or D00034567A to be a ladder or 67890000 with multiple zeros to be a ladder..ladderish numbers with random zeroes thrown in, as 34050678. Its no surprise those like coinfrog and steveintampa therefore would have no interest and call it a spender :) while others might simply like to collect such interesting serial numbers.

Edited by datadragon
04/04/2023 7:28 pm
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 04/04/2023  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just garbage ebay fantasy "collectible" serial numbers. If you fall for this, pick another hobby or you're going to lose a lot of money.
Moderator
Learn More...
nickelsearcher's Avatar
United States
15433 Posts
 Posted 04/04/2023  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great reply @datadragon. I agree - spenders.
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
Valued Member
luckyrollers's Avatar
United States
447 Posts
 Posted 04/05/2023  07:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luckyrollers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the info. :)
Pillar of the Community
hfjacinto's Avatar
United States
7276 Posts
 Posted 04/05/2023  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stuttering ladder, 3 of a kind, trinary, cool index factor are all meaningless. BUT some people collect them, I wouldn't . Serial number collectors are the new way some collectors want to get rich quick, after the errors found were all road rashed cents and weren't worth anything. I'm with coin frog, there isn't any of these I would take for over face value. But datadragon likes them he may buy them off of you.
Edited by hfjacinto
04/05/2023 07:33 am
Pillar of the Community
SteveInTampa's Avatar
United States
4637 Posts
 Posted 04/05/2023  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen them called stepladders. Personally, I've never had any interest in them but that's not to say someone on ebay wouldn't buy them for a small premium.
Valued Member
luckyrollers's Avatar
United States
447 Posts
 Posted 04/05/2023  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luckyrollers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again for all your input. I always followed the rules of currency collecting BUT like Stevefromtampa and Datadragon said, there are people who will buy it for a small premium. So why not cater to those groups while maintaining my own "real" collection?
Pillar of the Community
datadragon's Avatar
United States
1648 Posts
 Posted 04/09/2023  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Check datadragon's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Thanks again for all your input. I always followed the rules of currency collecting BUT like Stevefromtampa and Datadragon said, there are people who will buy it for a small premium. So why not cater to those groups while maintaining my own "real" collection?


Nothing wrong with doing that as there are many collectors who might like these in their collection, so long as someone isn't intentionally misleading buyers as to what something is... for example selling a coin with Machine Doubling (if known) as if it were a true doubled die and at the same high value of a true doubled die to mislead the buyer to think its far more valuable than it really is.

It would be like not selling a lowball coin (lowest grade) because you dont collect them personally when others might find them worthy of a purchase and perhaps in some cases leaving money on the table for those that are not only collecting just for themselves. Whether its worth the effort for some of them that might only bring a small premium is up to the finder/seller.
Edited by datadragon
04/09/2023 2:40 pm
Pillar of the Community
Joshu - a's Avatar
United States
586 Posts
 Posted 04/15/2023  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joshu - a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is my bill closest to a full ladder.

Stutter-Ladder-Notes?
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
188560 Posts
 Posted 04/15/2023  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
This is my bill closest to a full ladder.
Interesting example!
  Previous TopicReplies: 12 / Views: 1,398Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.35 seconds to rattle this change. Forums