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Valued Member
United States
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Hi everyone, First post here in the world coin forum.......hope I am not offending any of the darksiders......I know how sensitive you guys get about light and especially trolls!!........I have a coin that belongs to a friend of mine and he nor I have a clue as to its ID....I have a couple of Krauss catologs for dating coins back to 1800 but as of yet unless I am overlooking something I have come up empty handed. It is about the same size as our american silver dollar coins and appears to be of a metal similar to silver......it could very well be some kind of fake but it has no identifiable dates nor legends...... the design looks like it may be of middle eastern origin but I am not at all sure......please be so kind as to take a look see and if anyone has any ideas I am all ears.........   |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Denied. I can't see the pictures.
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Valued Member
 United States
103 Posts |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Hmm... sorry, I'm not much of a help. I don't know where that could possibly orginate from. Looks interesting though.
Do you happen to have the reverse side of the coin? Seems like you posted the same link twice. :)
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Valued Member
United States
123 Posts |
That one has me stumped; I have never seen anything quite like it. It could be considerably older than 1800, and I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't listed anywhere. There are a lot of mysterious coins out there. In this case, I can't even place the region for certain, although somewhere in South Asia might be a possibility.
Heather
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Valued Member
Australia
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The design looks similar to some I have seen on ancient indian coins, except that those coins were rectangalur.
Can you give us any more information on the coin, eg where did it come from or at least how did it come to you.
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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It doeslook from the South asia(india)/South east asia, Burma or Central Asia(afghhanitan)
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Valued Member
United States
103 Posts |
Hi guys,
Thanks for all of your replies to date........sorry but I do not know anything else about the coin other than it has been in my freinds possesion for around twenty years..........someone in another forum suggested it may be a counterfiet spanish 8 reales.........I thought I looked at all of those pretty carefully but I could have overlooked something......it may just be a tourist trinket from somewhere.......but at least we tried right?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Got me stumped.
I am surprised we were unable to id the coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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hey I reall dont know, does it cross refrence with any in the krauss book, screw press type coin it looks like maybe early 1800,possibly crest of a city state in European country
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Moderator
 Australia
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The guys over at CU were right, if a bit lacking in detail regarding the dating. The design is based on an early 1600's "cob style" silver 8 reales, or fraction thereof, of the New Spanish mints in the Americas (Mexico or Peru). A pirate "piece of eight". Mexico KM#32 (2 reales 1607-1622) shows a good comparison picture.
The gold coins were similar, except the cross arms had a T shape at the ends and had fleur-de-lys instad of lions-and-castles inside the cross.
Would they be copied? Sure. Any tourist place with a "pirate theme" might sell or give these away to visitors. Perhaps they might even bury a bunch of them so the tourists can "find pirate treasure of their own".
It might even be a contemporary copy, dating from the 1600s or 1700s. 8 reales (or a "dollar", if you prefer) was a lot of money back then.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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I don't think its an eight Reales. It seems to be like a Half Reale or 4 reale, but 4 reales are expensive!
8 reales are way tooo pricey!
The design looks familiar.
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks SAP,
That helped to clear it up a little more........and thanks to all of you for your help and replies
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Valued Member
United States
236 Posts |
I think SAP is on the right trail here- however, IMHO the coin is a bit too correct- or should I say less crude than the cobs or real pieces. It does look like a cast or mold coin which could have been taken from a medallion - So-- without legends, it is virtually impossible to make positive ID's on any coin- With exceptions of course in the Roman Imperial coinages; You can with practice get to know those people through their portraitures when all else has been worn off. What a curious bunch we are! habiru001
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just to add my Two Cents - the coin is in fact a cast copy of the "Tourist Type" - they are sold as souveniers and are typically made of a soft white metal. This particular one has been around for a long time - since I was a kid. But on ebay you see them offered as real all the time. |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Photo is upside down, but appears to be a European Shield (coat-of arms) which coould identify the mother country at least. Sorry, the best I can do for now\.> If I could see the other side, it might help.
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