Ottoman Coin Or Something Else? | Imitations

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arok Valued Member Canada 53 Posts	Posted 03/16/2009 10:29 pm Could anybody help me to identify this item, please? As far as I understand, the face side looks like Ottoman Empire 1223AH/20 Mahmud II (Adli) coin. Probably 3 qirsh, but smaller size. And I am totally confused with the reverse. My friend has three items like this. They look to be identical. Any ideas, what could it be? Image: OttomanCoini.jpg 62.39 KB Edited by Sap 04/09/2009 09:03 am Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16845 Posts	Posted 03/18/2009 01:26 am I'd guess it's a reproduction, not a real coin. Imitation gold jewellery coins (normally made of brass) are used for decorative purposes in Turkey and the Middle East (think "belly dancers"). Such reproductions normally come with holes, ready for wearing. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
arok Valued Member Canada 53 Posts	Posted 03/19/2009 08:22 am It sounds like a reasonable explanation. This one does not have a hole however... Report this Post to the Staff
arok Valued Member Canada 53 Posts	Posted 03/26/2009 9:49 pm My friend actually found another very similar item - Image: erme01.jpg 56.89ÿKB The material and the size look the same. Reverse (3) with unusual Arabic inscription (Ibrahim Adli, as my friend with Arabic language skills reads it) is also the same. But the side which matches Ottoman coins pattern is different. It is apparently from 1223AH/9 (1). The strange thing is that I have never been able to find any Ottoman coins of those two years anywhere on-line. I mean 1223AH/9 (1) and 1223AH/20 (2). I found two very similar but from 1223AH/11 and 1223AH/28 correspondingly - Image: OttomanInet1.jpg 39.06ÿKB Image: OttomanF.jpg 37.42ÿKB Does anybody have any pictures of Ottoman coins for these years? Anyway, when I compare my friend's items with what I found on-line, it seems that they are re-cut to smaller size. So, maybe the part, which use to be with hole, disappeared as a result . Besides, my friend reads inscription on the coin-like side (1,2) as Konstantinus. This means that these coin (or original prototype) was minted in what is currently Istanbul, does not it? Edited by arok 03/28/2009 12:52 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16845 Posts	Posted 04/09/2009 09:02 am Quote: Besides, my friend reads inscription on the coin-like side (1,2) as Konstantinus. This means that these coin (or original prototype) was minted in what is currently Istanbul, does not it? Yes, both coins say "struck in Constantinople" in Arabic, just like regular Ottoman Turkish coins do. But these "coins" are clearly not real gold, judging by the staining, and the Ottomans didn't issue any brass coins. Coinage of the Ottoman Empire during of the reign of Mehmed II is very confusing, with numerous coinage reforms occuring, sometimes in overlapping periods. In Year 9, two gold coin series were being issued: the old gold rumi (which looked like this, and the new gold rumi, which looked like this. Your pic number 1 actually looks very similar to the example shown in the Krause coin catalogue for the 2 rumi altin coin, which is also dated Year 9, although the lettering on yours is cruder. In Year 20, two different gold coin series were being issued: the old gold aldi which looked like this, and the new gold aldi, which looked like this. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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