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I'm stumped by this one because the error is so uniform and only around the date. I don't see it anywhere else on the coin's obverse or reverse. It weighs 5 grams. Interested to hear your thoughts. Could this be an RPD or is this LDS? If it's a significant error, should I have it graded? P.S. I added a close up of the mint mark just for grins.    
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Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 05/11/2023 10:39 pm
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An encased holder would definitely explain the damage on the rim. I learned something new. Thank you. I figured it was most likely not a significant error. It was just so odd that the MD was only around the date and nowhere else. But then again, maybe it's not that odd. Thanks again Oldgrouchyguy!
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New Member
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Looks like the DI's got mangled during the MD as well.
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Late die state. looking closely you can see that the numbers in the date are 'doubled' in all directions. Look inside the loop of the '9'
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Agreed. Thanks Dearborn. Plus the "doubling" looks flat. I guess the date was the first part of that die that started to go.
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bestofvariety: I saw someone free an absolutely gorgeous 1901 Cent from a gem Pan-Am Expo collar; the rim was flattened and beveled all around. The crazy things we did in the 70's...
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Oh! That hurts my heart! You must have been doing some crazy things to make you do those crazy things if you know what I mean. Lol
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Gosh, maybe I'm worn out from looking at posts of counterfeits all day, but it doesn't look legit to me. The bridge of the nose is gone. Casting texture all over and the odd looking date and rims. Oh well, just another opinion.
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You might be right. Like I said, it does weigh 5g. But I agree. All of the other features are soft but the date is so well defined. Isn't the date one of the first features to wear on these coins?
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kbbpll: what you see, esp on the top rim on the reverse, is damage caused by the collaring and encasement mechanism bestofvariety: someone, early in the morning on a soon-to-be a very busy Saturday, spread a couple of thousand Brazilian cruzeiro notes, along with the contents of a few rolls of rusted Steelies, up and down Boston's Bromfield Street. Bromfield and the bisecting Province St. were the addresses of maybe half a dozen coin shops in the '70s.
Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 05/12/2023 02:03 am
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Oldgrouchyguy: So you do think this is a legit coin?
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bestofvariety: weigh it, diameter it... but I would take that bet. It's been a bit beat-up
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kbbpll that is a good pick up I think you are right that it does seem likely counterfeit, certainly an interesting one. The overall shallow features paired with a rather sharp date (also looks a bit unusual) and LIBERTY is often weak and is rather strong for a 1913 and paired with those other shallow features. The reverse has similar shallow features but a strong mint mark. I would lean counterfeit as well.
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Yeah, I don't know, I'm certainly no expert at these. I've been trying to find one on Heritage with the 3 that high in relation to the other digits, and not finding any. The bottom loop of 3 is odd and the 9 looks off to me as well. The coin is so mushy and yet the date pops out, weird. 
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