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1883 Indian Head Off Strike And Off Colour

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 Posted 04/24/2023  01:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tjames88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Have an Indian head the colour is nice just looks off colour on the high spots the rim looks off. Maybe cleaned or something
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 Posted 04/24/2023  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add I6609 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep in mind I know nothing about IHC but what are the odds this is a proof coin . This is just another question not an answer to your question it does look a little different to me and in pretty good shape with a very good strike
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 Posted 04/24/2023  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Much better pics needed.
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 Posted 04/24/2023  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tjames88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the input I have no clue either found mixed in a roll. I'll try to get better pics.
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 Posted 04/24/2023  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slight MAD setup on the dies. Not a premium for the coin, not an off center coin.
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Not a proof cent. The design is stronger on the proof cents. They are struck twice:
https://images.PCGS.com/CoinFacts/2...099_2200.jpg
Note the strike on the proof coin?
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 Posted 04/24/2023  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe this is a counterfeit, check out the link and photos of a similar example. The date looks incorrect, mushy strike weird rims etc. Photos are bad though.

https://www.indianvarieties.com/cou...t/#iLightbox[gallery-1]/19
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 Posted 04/24/2023  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tjames88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm more interested in the colour of the coin is it brown or is it toned like that because of how it was stored. Or does it normally look like that
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 Posted 04/25/2023  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With these new pics I think it looks real now, but that color isn't really natural. Probably cleaned and retoned
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 Posted 04/25/2023  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add indian_hoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin is 100% a counterfeit, made from a commonly seen die. Besides all the obvious details that can identify it as such, the most telltale marker is the die flaw by the denticles just above the 1st feather. Looks like an extra lump of metal coming out of the denticles.
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 Posted 05/11/2023  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indian_hoarder nailed it
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I agree, a modern counterfeit.
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Do these counterfeit coins never end!
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