Whole Penny Roll Hunting I Came Across This Wedding Token, But Weight Doesn't Match

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Zilliz81 Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 10:57 am While searching a penny roll, I came upon this token, which is the same diameter, but the weight is 3.9 g with anyone have information, as I cannot find anything similar. Report this Post to the Staff

HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 25120 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 11:57 am These "Recuerdo Matrimonial" have a long history, especially in Spain, Mexico, Central and South America, and the Philippines. Among rich families, they were originally gold, but either plated or brass among less well-to-do people. The tradition continues to this day. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ex...ia87092.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_arras Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Zilliz81 Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 12:05 pm I did find this information as I thank you for the response. Where I am stumped is in the weight to determine the metal it could be. Report this Post to the Staff
HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 25120 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 12:12 pm You could either determine its specific gravity or have it tested at a jeweler or pawn shop. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19147 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 1:09 pm An end-on pic of the edge might give us a sense of its thickness. Report this Post to the Staff
HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 25120 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 1:14 pm Diameter and thickness would allow a quick-n-dirty calculation of density. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 6:37 pm Very cool! Report this Post to the Staff
Zilliz81 Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 7:20 pm The Token measures 19.05 mm and thickness is 1.588mm Report this Post to the Staff
datadragon Pillar of the Community United States 1648 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 7:42 pm Here is the similar design on bronze and on nickel tokens (urls below), but which dont match the weight given. I found another that looks the same as yours but with a weight of 3.2g not 3.9g so perhaps the weights all vary with the base metals used. Edit: Hondos link also has this info: Las arras, or Las arras matrimoniales (English: arrhae, wedding tokens, or unity coins) are wedding paraphernalia used in Christian wedding ceremonies in Spain, Latin American countries, and the Philippines. The tradition is also followed, with varying names and customs, in countries and communities bearing degrees of Hispanic influence. Traditionally, in Spain and Latin America, it is made up of thirteen gold coins presented in an ornate box or chest; in the Philippines, it is in an ornate basket or pouch. After being blessed by a priest, they are given or presented by the groom to the bride. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ex...ia87092.html https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ex...a191171.html Some info on specific gravity home testing or you can have someone do a test as Hondo mentioned: https://www.mgsrefining.com/blog/20...metals-gems/ https://coinsblog.ws/2016/06/detect...gravity.html Edited by datadragon 05/12/2023 7:48 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34401 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 8:05 pm Hey that is a fun find while CRHing. Will you save it in a 2x2 or put it back into circulation? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 25120 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 8:36 pm Density of this piece is 8.6 g / cc**3, using the provided figures. Gold is 19.3, while copper is 9.0. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Zilliz81 Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 05/12/2023 10:39 pm It's in a 2x2 now. I search pennies daily and this is the first time I have came across something like this.. So must be copper with gold plating? Report this Post to the Staff
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