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Edited by Kaioti23
05/14/2023 5:17 pm
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Don't waste your time, it's not worth grading.
Also, there's no need to edit your photos like that.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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I didn't edit my photos "like" anything. My magnifier is stuck zoomed in and all I did was crop them.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Are these purple and green colors accurate?  to the CCF! Edited by Coinfrog
05/14/2023 6:14 pm
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Looking at the current NGC price guide, it appears that a coin would have to be in the MS66 or better category to really make it a good option to try to grade it for value return purposes vs the typical fees. Anything below is going to be a slight loss unless you are just trying to encapsulate something for a personal collection. https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide...es/cents/99/ With PCGS looks like it would have to be a MS65 or better also. Here are some graded examples to compare to https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin.../images/2714This is because the cost I see at NGC is $23 to grade (since its not dated after 1965). On top of that there is an added $10 per order plus shipping back and forth so many wait until they have a number of coins to submit at once to spread those added costs among multiple coins or perhaps at a show as you mentioned. If you are not yet a member of NGC that too would add a cost the first submission (and each year) so it can be a bit hard on those new to grading and having few coins to submit. https://www.ngccoin.com/submit/services-fees/ngc/ Many think the 1943/d are valuable but its mainly errors and special coins like the rare 1943 bronze planchet that is the valuable ones. Edited by datadragon
05/14/2023 8:14 pm
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Yeah. They have a slight "oil slick" sheen kind of toning with mint luster. It's not super strong toning. It is all over, but weaker toward the center and stronger toward the edges.
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Thanks for the links datadragon. Based on that I do think they might be 67+ or 68, not knowing what those 2 little scratches might do. It can vary so much and I don't understand it well yet. I saw that they were selling at a few hundred or so. Maybe take them to a show?
Edited by Kaioti23
05/14/2023 6:26 pm
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Take a photo of them in natural light, not through a magnifier.
There's zero percent chance these will grade a 67 or 68, don't waste your time.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Based on that I do think they might be 67+ or 68, not knowing what those 2 little scratches might do. It can vary so much and I don't understand it well yet. I saw that they were selling at a few hundred or so. Maybe take them to a show? The price for a top graded 1943-d can be in that price range or higher but those coins in that grade are not easy to find. If you are able to post better photos as requested then you can get some opinions on a grade, and remember that each coin is graded individually. Remember that ultimately its up to you to decide whether to spend money such as grading or not, here we may just help some people save money when something is clearly not what the person thinks it is. I would only grade if they appear to be at least a MS65 and prefer a 66 or better for me personally to consider. You can keep it in a standard 2x2 flip using a flat clinch stapler, and a 3 ring binder with pockets to house them to start. https://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/pr...and-wallets/ I only used albums later when I decided what entire series to collect all of them. I picked up the Max Hd-11Flk (Black) Vaimo Stapler flat clinch model which is a bit more compact than the full size Max HD-50DF so was easier to bring it with me. It came with 1 box of staples but can get more obviously. https://www.amazon.com/Max-Hd-11Flk.../B0088TKTO2/ Flat Clinch means it flattens the staples but actually uses smaller staples as well that wont cause issues potentially like normal ones. Edited by datadragon
05/14/2023 8:12 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Photos taken in diffused natural light would be very useful.
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Enough larger dings to keep it at MS-63.
Questionable artificially toned does not make a difference to the grade.
The best way to protect the (artificial?) toning is to enclose them in close fitting snap close hard acrylic plastic capsules,
- that avoids the costs of TPGrading. Smaller capsules are OK to put in archival quality non PVC album pages.
The smallest capsules can still be put in standard 2x2's, and stapled.
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Bedrock of the Community
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for a better assessment if the coin grades above 66 do not use the magnifier. take full photos of both sides with no overhead or flash lighting. 66's are available everywhere and not worth slabbing. when you get above that every little flaw will count
if you are using a phone you can try this
1. if coin is in holder, remove coin from holder if possible
2. turn off flash
3. place coin on flat surface with indirect natural light. maybe a window sill in a cloudy day. Use a black or white background to avoid any reflective color
4. move phone about 3in from coin
5. zoom in using your fingers until the coin comes into focus and fills the cameras view finder. if your phone has a portrait selection use that and then press and hold on the coin in the view finder to AF lock it
6. hold phone steady. if you cant then place something on either side of the coin (like books) at that distance and lay phone between them. this will hold it steady and allow you to zoom and take the photo without any blurring
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With current images, I say these coins are re-plated, circulated steel cents.
XF details, altered surfaces.
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I tend to agree that they're likely reprocessed.
Edited by Coinfrog
05/15/2023 4:33 pm
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Hard to tell much from the pictures but it does look MS.
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