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New Member
South Africa
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I have come across a coin which I find quite unique as I already have quite a number of them, the coin itself has a rather unusual error but not a mistrike what I mean is head to toe for the lack of a better analogy. anyone out there come across anything like this?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Hi,
Welcome to the forums.
Can you post some pictures? Might be an idea to put a "normal one" and the "error one" side by side in the same picture.
Once you do that, I am sure someone will be able to help.
Also what country is the coin from since I don't recall Mandela being on a US released coin. I know he has been on several coins from South Africa.
Ken
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New Member
 South Africa
10 Posts |
Hi Ken
The coin is of South African origin.
Nelson Mandela Commemorative 2000.
The best way I can describe the error is that the bust (front side) and the Wildebeest (reverse side) are supposed to face the same direction but not in this case they are totally opposite meaning 180 degree's. I have almost thirty other examples of this specific coin and it is the only one the is reversed like this.
Edited by coinedcollector
03/20/2009 6:22 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Egypt
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Valued Member
United States
322 Posts |
Hi. Sounds like it could be a rotated die.
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New Member
South Africa
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Hi Rotated die is the best way you could describe it, I have posted photos as you will see and these are pictures of both sides of the coin without rotating the coin just flipped over. Image:  IMG_4860.jpg86.38 KB Image: IMG_4866.jpg86.6 KB Edited by coinedcollector
03/20/2009 6:21 pm
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New Member
South Africa
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Hi
As indicated the total die rotation on this coin is 180 degree's and not 90 degree's as I first stated, I have thus changed my original posting to reflect so, Thanks
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New Member
South Africa
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I can be contacted @ coinedcollector@gmail.com for any further information
Regards
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Pillar of the Community
Egypt
3470 Posts |
This coin should have a medal alignment, and from what you said I think you mean that your coin has a coin alignment. If this is the case, I think that this is an error and a good find. I dont know the name of the error or its effect on the coin value, but their are many experts here that will sure help you. I think you should also make sure that it is not a counterfeit. Only my opinion, I am still learning.  Nice find |
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New Member
South Africa
10 Posts |
Hi
Is there anyone else who can comment on this coin?
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New Member
South Africa
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Hi All I do not know if this would have any bearing on the value of this coin but according to SACOIN there is a coin of the same edition that is currently estimated to be valued @ $74000 (Proof 69) the article can be found @ https://www.sacoin.co.za |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I wish I knew more about SA coins to comment. But there are some dozen collectors here from South Africa, so I hope they can offer you some more insight.  |
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New Member
South Africa
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There has been a suggestion I send this coin across to the USA, will it be a futile excercise or is it possibly be worth sending over. ANY ANSWERS?
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New Member
South Africa
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IS THERE NO ONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO CAN OFFER ANY FURTHER ADVICE REGARDING THIS COIN ?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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No need to yell, a simple bump would suffice.
The type of error discussed here is not all that uncommon. I would imagine that a die rotation error would only add minimal value to this common coin. The errors that really increase value are the more dramatic ones, like multiple strikes or off metal coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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according to SACOIN there is a coin of the same edition that is currently estimated to be valued @ $74000 (Proof 69) Sorry, but the only thing you coin shares with that one is the design. That coin is valuable because it is a very low mintage presentation piece in a very high grade while yours is one released for general circulation. However, IMO that coin has really been overly hyped(thus a highly inflated value) and that SA dealers website has a similar appearance to other sites in the US that hawk coins as a sure-fire investment, noting high percentage returns but not noting the fine details. The US has had coins that have been hyped in a similar manner and the values usually fall back to Earth when people realize that salespeople are the ones driving the value and not the market as a whole. As for your specific die rotation question, that would be a rare error with 180 rotation on a US coin. However, I have seen examples from other world mints that are relatively common so I really have no idea if it is common or not. Your own words are telling though- Quote:
as I already have quite a number of them Usually, when someone finds many examples of what they think might be an unusual coin, the fact that you are finding many examples usually(but not always) rules out rarity of the coin. |
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Posted 03/20/2009 5:09 pm
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