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Improving Counterfeits- Recent 1811 Half Cent.

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It has been 3 years since I wrote my Coin Week article on a family of fakes based on an 1835 type obverse and 1826 C-1 reverse.

https://coinweek.com/struck-counter...t-1835-1826/

Since then it appears the counterfeiters have improved at least the 1811.

Improving-Counterfeits--Recent-1811-Half-Cent.

The obverse is new and no longer matches the original "family" members from my article:

Improving-Counterfeits--Recent-1811-Half-Cent.

Fortunately, it doesn't exactly match either known 1811 Half Cent variety either, but certainly closer:

Improving-Counterfeits--Recent-1811-Half-Cent.

And the reverse is still the 1826 C-1 (green circles die markers of genuine 1826 C-1):

Improving-Counterfeits--Recent-1811-Half-Cent.

I consider these to be mid-level deceptive fakes, but they are closing the gap; IMHO ATTRIBUTION continues to be the key to flushing these out, or these will continue to fool some dealers and collectors alike and be sold!

Best, Jack.
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Thanks for this indeed.
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Other than color, those are some scary good counterfeits. I get sick to my stomach with all this Chinese crap then I become angry!
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Thanks, burfle23.
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Jack once again you amaze us all with your dedication and hard work to ferret out these fakes. Way to go my friend.
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Thank you westcoin!

My Coin Week article: https://coinweek.com/a-current-dece...counterfeit/
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For the moment I think I'm okay.

I have two 1811 ½¢ slabbed by PCGS.
One is without a die crack; the other is a 4-star Cud.
I may look for one with a pre-cud die crack.
The 2-star Cud variety is too expensive.
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