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1864 Indian Cent For Grading And Comments

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Had this one for a little while. Loved the strike and got it for a more than fair (IMHO) price. Bidding very light. Curious as to comments and grading opinions.
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 Posted 06/08/2023  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it may have had a very light cleaning in the past, probably doesn't affect the grade any more, Can't tell the Snow is it either a 3 or a 4a? If the Snow 4a then WOW, I'm seeing the telltale die crack at 10:30 on the reverse from the wreath to the rim denticles, Can't really tell on Liberty it's not well focused enough to see it sharply, but it looks possibly doubled. The 4 has a look of a damaged punch like Snow 3 but the die crack isn't on the Snow 3, so 4? Great rim crumbling/cuds.

I'd grade it at AU55 straight or MS62 details.
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 Posted 06/08/2023  06:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No LIBERTY doubling - I wish. So you don't think this coin could grade straight? Fields and devices are pretty much pristine with only a few minor tics. Mint luster remaining in the lowest parts of the devices. I don't see any sign of rub on the coin. Curious as to your AU55 thinking, westcoin. Thanks
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 Posted 06/08/2023  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RedRaider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice CN example. The strike on these is usually mushy (hence why they changed composition later that year).

I say MS63, might get a 64 out of it.
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 Posted 06/08/2023  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say MS-63, shot 64 as well.
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i think the strike will hold this to MS62
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This is one I'll eventually send in for TPG. Guess we'll find out then.
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Would sure love to have this one in my collection! I love it.

MS63 at the minimum
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This will go for TPG, eventually. We'll see what they say. Thanks for the opinions.
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 Posted 06/12/2023  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice MS-63.
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Going through some old posts and realized I never updated this one. Very disappointing. AU58 - horrible TruView.
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Wow, those are terrible TV pictures. Bummer on the grade for sure.
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 Posted 03/08/2026  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bummer

there is a small amount of rub right under the eye, on the eyebrow and curl next to it and on the higher point of the leaves and bow,

i thought that it might have been just cabinet rub but I guess they saw it as wear.

still a really nice CN
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Thank you for the update, even if late and not happy news.
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