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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am guessing these are common, but it's the first one I can remember seeing. Peace obverse on one side, and correctly oriented Morgan obverse on the other. Weight is 26.65g but doesn't sound like silver when given the ring test. 1921 Peace/Morgan dollar - fake   |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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 :-( fake. Comparative ping tone by itself is enough to almost condemn it outright. Certainly enough for an intending buyer to ignore it, and consider no further investigation needed. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The ping test is not the best obervation in this case, because if the two halves were clammed together by glue, it would not sound the same as a normal silver dollar.
Can we get an edge photo? Pretty neat piece, I have not seen one like it before.
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Pillar of the Community
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Edge is perfect. This thing seems made like this not created from two coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Same density and weight, but different alloy is enough to change ping tone. Metal stiffness can vary from genuine, if different alloy or core,(as with fake gold bars, where weight is the same).
I have a few very deceiving centrifugal pressure die cast fakes, with sharp mechanically re cut edge milling. (not US silver Dollars), easily detected by higher ping tone. Never even bothered to weigh them, - no need to.
Ping tone not much use when re cycled 900 fine silver is used in association with fake dies, but if that is the case,
diagnostics rely on die differences from genuine.
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United States
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Interesting. Ping test, tissue test, weight, magnate test, look for casting bubbles, look for a seam somewhere on the coin. It is a matter of trouble shooting  . Obviously, it is not a genuine error but fun to investigate. John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My vote would be a cast piece noting the denticles on the bottom of the Morgan side and the flat relief of the coin as a whole.
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Interesting find.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks folks! I think I am going with Magician's coin for this one as I doubt it was made to be a counterfeit and sold. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Fake. If you do a search you'll find it for sale for less than 10 real dollars.
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That Etsy coin looks exactly like this one! I figured there were more of these out there but great to verify that. |
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Quote:I think I am going with Magician's coin for this one as I doubt it was made to be a counterfeit and sold. Quote: I did a quick search and found this being peddled on Etsy... |
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Posted 06/15/2023 12:44 am
