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2012 P Quarter Mystery Error With Distorted Rim Lettering

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 Posted 06/24/2023  2:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add A1agrl to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anyone tell me about the error on this quarter. At first I thought it was struck through. But then I noticed stretch lines (blue arrows) on the reverse, which could indicate cracks from extreme pressure to the planchet. The reverse rim lettering is very distorted, and the obverse of the coin is missing the mint mark as well as parts of "In God We Trust." And if that's not enough, the date appears to be doubled or stretched to the south. (Please see pictures) Thank you for your opinions.

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 Posted 06/24/2023  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slight Greaser w/ Die Deterioration, IMO.
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 Posted 06/24/2023  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die Deterioration is strong with this one.
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 Posted 06/24/2023  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add A1agrl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two questions...

Do the striated cracks and distorted lettering on the reverse (which look entirely different from the grease error on the obverse) indicate Die Deterioration? The obverse lettering is distorted softly by grease, whereas, the reverse lettering's distortion is more angular and looks like Hieroglyphs.

Does this damage add any value to the coin?
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 Posted 06/24/2023  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Errers and Varietys.
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Those are radial flow lines, which indicate Die Deterioration. The longer a die is struck, the more the metal flows from the center to the outside. You can see that on the date, as the features have begun to ooze towards the rim.

The flattened devices on the front might be a grease strike (basically just clogged grooves on the die that cannot be struck correctly). More likely it is a sign of severe Die Deterioration, as Errers lists above. All the features on the obverse are fading into mush.

In short, that pair of dies was pushed way, way beyond the point where they could reliably strike quality coins with sharp features.
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Also the red arrows to the date are incused Machine Doubling.
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