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Valued Member
United States
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British Anglo Saxon Gold Penny- has placed the British Museum under attack for purchasing this coin at a price of US equivalent of $650.00 (Trivial when compared to our US 1933 Double Eagle) It is the only known Gold Anglo Saxon Penny- and it depicts REX COENWULF on the Obverse. To clearify further, it is the only known gold coin struck from 630 to 1257 A D to bear the London Mint signature. Coin World of March 6th has a detailed article- Well worth reading if you like British Numismatics. habiru001 Edited by habiru001
03/24/2006 3:45 pm
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Pillar Of The Community
Turkey
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Interesting, another new thing to learn:), Thanks Dewey.
Wonder what happened to the rest of the coins struck in between 630-1257.
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Forum Mom
 United States
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Thanks, Dewey. As soon as I am not quite so swamped with work, I'll take a look at the article.  |
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Valued Member
 United States
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Originally posted by RenaL
Interesting, another new thing to learn:), Thanks Dewey.
Wonder what happened to the rest of the coins struck in between 630-1257.
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Valued Member
United States
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Originally posted by habiru001
[quote]Originally posted by RenaL
Interesting, another new thing to learn:), Thanks Dewey.
Wonder what happened to the rest of the coins struck in between 630-1257. Hello Renal, Good Question- There seems to be a huge dividing line here concerning the Saxon Period- So little (numismatically) is known of that period- However the in between- actually started with William the 1st in 1066 AD and the United Kingdom Kings start with him in the world of Numismatics. The British publish an Id book similar to our Krause Mishler book- over 600 pages, 5,000 photos and 50,000 prices. It is their Coincrafts Standard Catalogue of English and UK Coins. 1066-to Date- I have collected English and therefore find it most useful. habiru001- call me Dewey
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Australia
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Originally posted by RenaL
Wonder what happened to the rest of the coins struck in between 630-1257.
There wasn't very much in the first place. As I understand it, hardly any gold made it to Dark Age Britain, and what did arrive was either in the form of jewellry or other heirlooms or was already in coin form - usually the high quality, well-trusted Islamic gold dinar. The tiny amount of gold sent to the London mint would have been struck into gold pennies, usually with the same dies used to strike the "ordinary" silver pennies (and those are scarce enough, nowadays). These gold coins would likely not have entered general circulation, but would have remained in the royal treasury as prestige pieces, only being spent in cases of dire emergency (like a member of the royal family being captured by the enemy and requiring a ransom). Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
United States
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Archeology validates the jewelry mentioned above-and has shown that gold jewelry was used in barter. However a bit dubious on the Islam dinar at least in the early 600'a.d.'s As the muslin religion didn't get started until 600 AD- (with all due repect- I would like to see some source that tells us exactly when the Islamic gold dinar made its debut in the world. Because of the Druid-and Celtic influence in England-Islam would have had extreme difficulty in getting a foothold there. Habiru Knight #28
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Pillar Of The Community
Turkey
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Thanks for the info guys,
I'll check about islamic lunar dinar, maybe I can get more info in Turkish.
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Australia
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The Islamic gold dinar was first issued in the coinage reform of the year 77 AH (= 697 AD). The standard gold coin for international trade at the time was the Byzantine solidus; practically no-one else was making high quality gold coins in quantity.
For quite a while, the dinar and solidus were the same size, weight and fineness, but as the Byzantine-controlled trade routes fell one by one to the Caliphate, Islamic dinars became more and more common in world trade. Byzantine gold maintained its reputation as a primary international trade coin until around 1025 AD, when the gold finally dried up and the Byzantine economy began to collapse. After that time, Islamic gold took over that role completely. European states bordering the Caliphate began to issue their own imitation dinars shortly afterwards.
Merchants and traders are a pragmatic sort; good gold is good gold, irrespective of the religion or philosophy depicted on it. Nobody would knock back a perfectly good piece of gold just because it had a Muslim inscription on it. Besides, few people in Britain would have been able to read Arabic.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Wow!
Cool goldee!
And must be one of those tiny ones....eh?
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Valued Member
United States
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Well, KoCt#21, you earned your keep on this one-and you make a good point. Goes to show you- don't always assume something just because of a time of origin of a certain group--In my own mind, realizing that the Islam religion didn't get going until after 600 A D I simply figured 50 years was just too early for them to have a foothold enough so to mint gold. Ok,So the Caliph's naturally got their hands in the pot so to speak. Live and Learn- Knight #28
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Banned
New Zealand
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There was even a copy of the Islamic gold Dinar that has the name 'OFFA' added to the reverse design.This is an interesting gold coin from the Anglo-Saxon Kingdom of Mercia.
Aidan.
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