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1938 China Dollar Or Half Dollar Minted By The US Mint

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Can someone in the know more than me find me images of one of these please. Chinese money is about to make my brain explode.

1949 Dollar would be acceptable also.
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Do you mean the Junk Dollar dated year 23?
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No idea, this is from the US Mint archive and all I have to go on.

I just need obverse and reverse of one of these coins.

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I don't know much about them, but it might be one like this minted in the US in 1949 with a Chinese Year 23 on it.
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Awesome Albert, thank you. I'll check back tomorrow before posting it to see if there's any more converstaion here.
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These would be the pieces with Sun Yat-Sen on the obverse and the "spade" on the reverse, Kann numbers 633 (the half-dollar) and 632 (the dollar), of which in my KM catalogue it says "all but a few pieces were remelted".

The Numista entries for these coins are confused. The inscriptions for the half-yuan are given on the page for the yuan, and the mass of the half-yuan is listed as a trifle over 9 grams (the correct weight for the copper-nickel piece of the same design as actually issued), whereas KM gives it as 10, as shown in the US Mint report above.

The 1949 would be the "junk" type as Albert showed above.
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I'm fascinated with the report and history, glad to see the type of 1938 coins it is that actually circulated in China made in the US Mint.

Interesting patterns, thanks publius, China have a turbulent time in that part of history.
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Thanks you, I'm slowly converting the PDF to web pages here: https://www.coincommunity.com/us_other_countries/
I found a nifty script to resort table columns on the fly. Plus I made separate columns for the mints so that you can sort and group them by mint instead of year.

It will take a while, it's a pretty large PDF. Plus I'm going to have a couple of my grandkids here for 2 weeks starting Tuesday so I'm sure not much will get done during that time.
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Just one of the provincial mint pieces
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Ok, thanks. So confusing.
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If interested, why not buy Kann which has details but poor images and Ming having less detail but better images?
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So what is this...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/234993930953

So confusing.


If you look at that piece, the first obvious tell is that it has Arabic lettering on one side and Chinese on the other. Coins of the Chinese central government never have Arabic lettering on them! Then, there is the date in Western figures, "1949", which is also not normally found on Republic of China issues. (It is typical of modern PRC issues.)

If you can learn a few Chinese characters, you immediately see that, on the side with the Chinese lettering, the coin is dated "33rd Year of the Republic" which agrees with 1949. Also the inscription starts off with the characters meaning "New Dominions" and read "Hsin-Kiang" or "Shin-Jiang". That is Chinese Turkestan, the only Chinese-controlled area where Arabic lettering is used.

A copy of "Cash on the Line #61, A Primer for Collectors of Struck Chinese Coins", a little booklet by John A Novak, should not be too difficult to obtain, and will probably help you a great deal. I think it must have been reprinted several times, because it is the only "Cash on the Line" that I possess, or have ever seen in person.
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Thanks everyone, I just found this given your help: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces16370.html

Which confirms what has been said about the image above, figures match the Mint archive pdf perfectly.
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What a very timely thread.

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These would be the pieces with Sun Yat-Sen on the obverse and the "spade" on the reverse, Kann numbers 633 (the half-dollar) and 632 (the dollar), of which in my KM catalogue it says "all but a few pieces were remelted"....


There was a Copper nickel 1/2 yuan, shown in the link (1942), in a lot I won over the weekend.

(The silver ones must have been the ones that were melted.)
Bobby started the thread and Publius was kind enough to post the exact one I was looking for to get info for the label.

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