2022 P 25c Sm Die Polishing Event On The Rev?

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Rainman1 Valued Member United States 54 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 3:41 pm Obv has die chip where nose meets upper lip. Rev has a wave pattern that runs the length of her left arm. Is that from polishing? Report this Post to the Staff

Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6556 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 4:01 pm I see evidence of a Ring of Death running through the tops of dollar and dr. Also massive Die Deterioration on the bottom reverse lettering. I guess the first question is, what is the coin supposed to look like? Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34428 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 4:19 pm @rain, have you looked at an overlay? I wonder if you aren't seeing evidence of a die clash from George's hair on the rev. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6556 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 4:48 pm It looks more like die trails to me, from advanced Die Deterioration. That would be consistent with the eroded halos around the letters. https://www.error-ref.com/?s=Die+trails Report this Post to the Staff
Rainman1 Valued Member United States 54 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 5:04 pm @spence and brand - I will get a better close up of the area. I just realized my pics do not show the smallest detail of the suspected clash/trails. It almost looks like faint lathe lines. Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 5:16 pm Brand, that's not a Ridge Ring, it's the circle of death. Report this Post to the Staff
Rainman1 Valued Member United States 54 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 5:27 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97433 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 5:55 pm Ring of Death for certain. very clear ones on the Earth and the other one on the ribbon thingy below the F and A (Of America), then Bad Ring of Death from the U in united, going CCW all the way to the R of Dr. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6556 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 7:47 pm Quote: I see evidence of a Ring of Death running through the tops of dollar and dr. Quote: Brand, that's not a Ridge Ring, it's the circle of death. I'm pretty sure the Ring of Death and the circle of death are the same thing, no? Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97433 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 7:53 pm Yes Brand, they are the same, however introducing new terminology for the same thing can get troublesome, notice hot Ring of Death is also a hot link that will take you to a place where you can read up on it, and circle of death does not. And of course a Ridge Ring is something completely different. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 8:01 pm Brand, Sorry I read your post wrong. Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6556 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 9:00 pm Quote: Yes Brand, they are the same, however introducing new terminology for the same thing can get troublesome, notice hot Ring of Death is also a hot link that will take you to a place where you can read up on it, and circle of death does not. Um, right. So again, I am the one who used the term Ring of Death, which results in the embedded link to the correct explanation. If you wish to dispute the term circle of death, take it up with Cujohn, who is the one who used that term. Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6556 Posts	Posted 07/17/2023 9:01 pm No worries, John. Report this Post to the Staff
Yokozuna Pillar of the Community United States 4618 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 03:37 am Interesting! I don't think it's a clash, as there's nothing in that area to cause clash marks that would match. Here's a Clash Overlay of the full coin so you can see where clash marks would be expected. Click on the picture for a larger image ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! Report this Post to the Staff
Rainman1 Valued Member United States 54 Posts	Posted 07/18/2023 4:11 pm @ Yokozuna Thanks for the over lay Before posting this design berm, trails, and design creep came to mind. Berm - seemed the least likely due to appearance Trails - seemed most likely until I magnified then I saw that each trial has ridges perpendicular to the trails direction Design creep - with a design this busy maybe it presents differently but I feel like the peripheral letters would have to be at least approaching the rim So if they are trails due to DD, what causes the ridges/hatched appearance? Report this Post to the Staff
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