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1799 Half Penny Bronzed Proof Peck 1234

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Originally housed in a PCGS PR65 holder. Dark bronze surface with water like proof surface. No nick is present and with the lightest hairline. A few carbon spots on the obv yet does not alter its proof surface. Details on this coin are extraordinary.

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 Posted 07/26/2023  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful closeup shots!
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This is what proof coins should be all about.
No mirror fields or cameo relief to be seen (fortunately).
The die cutting is not only excellent, it is very sharp and is of the highest quality that the Mint is able to attain.

Sadly, with modern mint proof product, that is almost always not the case.
The only exception that readily comes to mind is the American 2009 ultra high relief Double Eagle. As I understand it, the US Mint lost a lot of money in it's attempt to achieve the highest quality possible.
With this coin, I note that fields are not mirror finish, and that is a good thing, because it has added to the artistry of the original designer, and to the Mint employees who produced it.

It seems that with modern mint proof product, that if the fields are mirror finish and has cameo relief, that is good enough, and so is assumed to be proof quality and is marketed as such, with such coins produced in their millions.
Laser etching to produce the cameo effect actually reduces the sharpness of the design detail.
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Laser etching to produce the cameo effect actually reduces the sharpness of the design detail.

That is very true. Extreme cameo frosting does give great eye appeal but its details become very blurry. Personally speaking, for any proof coins, preserving the artistic beauty of the original design should be ahead of having a cameo effect. On hand, I was shocked to see the hair strands so clearly defined on a design executed two hundred years ago. Nowadays, proof bust hair becomes just a blob of hair mushed together.
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Wonderfull example! Great pictures also

I have a 1799 1/2D PCGS PR-65 Brown but Peck-1242.do you know the difference between them?

Thanks!
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I have a 1799 1/2D PCGS PR-65 Brown but Peck-1242.do you know the difference between them?


The biggest difference is that they are from different dies. Peck 1234 is KH16 die variety, and Peck 1242 is KH21 die variety. Peck 1234 is early Soho and 1242 is late Soho.
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Truly wonderful coin! Matthew Boulton had tried for years to get the British government to introduce coinage that the working person could use. The story behind his efforts is available in "Matthew Boulton And The Art of Making Money", Brewin Books, ISBN 978-1-85858-450-8, and "Good Money", University of Michigan Press, ISBN-13: 978-0-472-11631-7 and ISBN-10: 0-472-11631-2. Happy hunting!
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CopperHunter, that is an absolute stunner - beautiful in every way!
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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The biggest difference is that they are from different dies. Peck 1234 is KH16 die variety, and Peck 1242 is KH21 die variety. Peck 1234 is early Soho and 1242 is late Soho.


Awesome, thanks for the info!
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