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Valued Member
United States
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Hello all  , been sitting on this one over a year now (no! I did not bend it while sitting on it), 1994d LMC. Weight 2 5g, the diameter is just a hair over normal, only in area of the edge overlap from what I can tell. The picture of reverse red arrows looks like a screw impression almost to me, the whole area there is incuse missing metal, though thinking the flap on edge made up the missing metal weight? I am still trying to figure it out, so while recently thumbing through (an excellent book), Joe Cronin's, "Mint Errors to Die For", I found and thought maybe a pre-strike-damaged planchet/blank? Though not much information on it in the book, or elsewhere that I can find. Any help would be greatly appreciated, any ideas  . Kindly, Bg     
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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This is post-mint damage. It was smashed - notice how the coin is no longer circular at the point of damage.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4135 Posts |
I do not know what cause it but it is just a damaged coin. Not an error.
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Valued Member
 United States
106 Posts |
Thank you, @HondoBugoss, and @oddguy. I am not sure I agree because of what I found in book, this can happen. I'll see others will have to say. I really do appreciate your opinions.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree, just damage. PMD.
Errers and Varietys.
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Valued Member
 United States
106 Posts |
@errers and varietys, I do thank you, I will post a picture from the book.
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Valued Member
 United States
106 Posts |
This picture is from: Joe Cronin's, Book "Mint Errors To Die For" that looks very similar to my coin. 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Cronin pretty much spells it out in that article. If the struck features are over the top of the error, then the problem happened prior to striking. Those are interesting and worth some money. If the "error" is over the top of the struck features, then the damage happened post-mint ( PMD) and are usually worthless. The damage on your coin destroyed the rim. Since the rim formed during striking, that means the damage almost certainly happened after the coin was manufactured. That's just my personal opinion, you are free to disagree—and if you can find someone to pay you money for the coin, then obviously you are right! =)
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
25084 Posts |
When you hear hoof beats, think horses - not zebras.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Moderator
 United States
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I agree with Brand and his comments. While your coin 'looks' similar to the one in the article, they are not the same at all. your coin was just crushed, while the other one had the copper pealed back before the strike and then sent to the striking chamber and the design was struck on the 'zinc' side of the plating.
Edited by Dearborn 07/28/2023 07:45 am
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Valued Member
 United States
106 Posts |
Thank you @Brandmeister, and @ Dearborn I do appreciate you all taking the the time.
Can anyone explain how the reverse gouge was copper plated post mint?
Again, I do appreciate all of your comments and help.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
6492 Posts |
Do you mean the bits of copper plating in the zinc smear? That copper surface is bonded quite strongly to the zinc core. Whatever crushed that coin edge probably scraped away a lot of the copper in that spot—it takes considerable force to damage a coin like that. But the copper surface wouldn't just peel away or fall off, it is attached to the zinc at the molecular level.
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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I wonder if it got stuck in a malfunctioning penny squashing machine at some tourist attraction, or maybe someone put the penny in the machine without turning the handle to point to one of the dies, and the penny got caught up in the rollers and ejected.
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Can anyone explain how the reverse gouge was copper plated post mint? Are you referring to your coin? (I'll assume so for now) On your coin, I'll propose that it was laying on a rough surface Obverse facing down towards the surface (tails up) Then, something relatively heavy and sharp impacted the very edge of your coin, denting it in (which explains why the zinc core is not showing), then there must have been a sliding movement while this heavy 'thing' was on your coin - stretching out the rim and scraping off the coper plating from the obverse side.
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Valued Member
 United States
106 Posts |
@Brandmeister, @NumisRob, and @Dearborn
I give! Lol.
I do thank everyone appreciate your time, and replies. Kindly, bj
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