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1976 Quarter RPM Detection - *updated Answer*

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Hi all, I made a montage of the 1976 Quarter RPM-001, the only one.

The question how we detect because the VV and Wex are not so clear. I past 300 coins in the last 2 days and open UN rolls (period originals), and all the MM seem very close. All are those bulbs MM as in the photos. Are the RED the signs?

Please clear me. This one and the 1988 missing me.

1976-Quarter-RPM-Detection---*updated-Answer*
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Are the RED the signs?
The answer is yes. I can put you in touch with Eric if you would like.
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What exactly are we looking at? Is it an RPM made with a damaged punch? A normal RPM and then the post broke on the die during striking?
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Thanks MAKE, I will appreciate this because this year and the 1986 RPM is a mystery for me to spot. The 1989 I am OK but also not understood very well.

@ Brand: I ask because all the 1976 Quarters the MM look similar as VV and Wex RPM, also the 1986.

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I guess am I really asking how VV/Wexler decided this was RPM, and not just a die chip or something.

I pulled out my rolls of 1976 quarters last night to check. Out of ~25 1976-D, every single one had either a mostly filled or completely filled mint mark. Not a single good punch in the batch. None of them had your RPM, though.
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In 500 I finds similar ones. No Die Chip but the inner of MM same. I will photo all the 1976 D MM and put by category and angles of the inner. Majority outside are more or less orientation same.

Will take me some time but I have to go to the bottom.

@BRAND : You are correct on your assertion. Yes find a good MM D for those coins I think it is a big challenge. Also the S MM it is an catastrophe LOL.
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Was Eric able to help you at all? He knows his stuff, he did a lot of work with and for Wexler over the years.
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Make I was busy with two Cu alloy (bronze) coins artifacts from 100 to 200 BD restoration so I just send him an mess with my photos and concern about detecting. I will keep update with the results and explanation.
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Sent you all the info and then some....
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Thanks MAKE, I have the answer. I understand now why it is RPM.

PS: I forgot to ask if I can publish here his answer.
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Here it is the answer from Eric Hope will help all


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Hello Silvio,
What you show on Wexler RPM#1 / Coneca RPM#1 is correct to where the RPM is within the primary M.M.. If you look just a little further east on photo #1 and #2 you will see a small part of the curve of the inner part of the secondary mintmark that is also North.
The other three photo's are die state photo's, which help I.D. an RPM. We need a placement of a marker to be in the exact same place, plus a little more or a little less to confirm die state. if we can align a marker and overlay the coin(s) to each other with placement being the same, then we have a match.

Is this coin above my coin or one you found? An overlay would prove it's the same die.

Filled Quarters are bad. Jeffersons with the mintmarks in the field are bad. I have to align the vest and the tip of the date to tell whether an RPM is in the same place.


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