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De LA Rue: Currency Printer To The World

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"De La Rue ... is in the high-stakes business of authentication. It designs and prints national passports, as well as the silver foil labels that mark cigarette packs and alcohol bottles as genuine. Most crucially, it works with roughly half of the world's central banks on their currency notes: designing them, developing security features to protect them from counterfeiting, and printing them. From its presses in Asia and Europe, De La Rue turns out up to 6 billion banknotes a year, making it the world's largest commercial printer of currency."

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Thx for posting this @hondo. While my banknote collection is small and largely being ignored by me in favor of coins, I found this article quite interesting as I am curious about anti-counterfeiting measures.
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210 years ago, Thomas De La Rue started a newspaper in Guernsey. He then moved to London to open a business selling straw hats & but was also printing stationary by 1821.

Here's the link on the De La Rue co history:
https://www.delarue.com/about/our-history which is included on Notaphilyc Cuture's:
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Very interesting indeed.
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Even though TDLR desisgns quite a few of Canada"s banknotes and cranks out a lot of the worlds banknote, a few yeats ago it almost went bankrupt.
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Even though TDLR desisgns quite a few of Canada"s banknotes and cranks out a lot of the worlds banknote, a few yeats ago it almost went bankrupt.


I did not know that! The only printers for the Bank of Canada series (& most Dominion series) I know of were either the Canadian Banknote Co (CBN) or the British American Banknote Co (BABN)

I believe it is quite unfortunate that the SCWPM made a big deal of this fact & separated notes produced by one or the other printers. I don't know one collector who prefers the BABN produced notes over CBN issues, yet the SCWPM created a fantasy premium for the BABN notes (typically).

These days, nobody cares who printed their notes!
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TDLR only designs some of our bank notes, I believe the multicolour series was their design among others, but I do not believe they printed any of our circulated currency. TDLR did produce some really cool paper vertical prototypes of a moose wolf and a antelope in early 90s, they were just slightly ahead of the time, and they were handsome designs too. I am almost sure the prototype BOC 125 dollar note was created by TDLR. BOC notes are printed by CBN or BABNC untill around 2013 when BABNC sold their Ottawa plant to CBN and rest of BABNC operations were sold to G&D now CBN is sole printer but that contract is ending soon
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210 years ago, Thomas De La Rue started a newspaper in Guernsey. He then moved to London to open a business selling straw hats & but was also printing stationary by 1821.

That's nothing. The Dutch printer Joh. Enschede was founded in 1703 and printed the first Dutch banknote in 1814. They are still around today printing banknotes!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh._Ensched%C3%A9
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These days, nobody cares who printed their notes!


Well, if you collect you should.

Here's an example why.
The Swedish 100 Kronor banknotes of series B,C and D were printed by Crane in Sweden.
After Crane closed their printing facility in Sweden, Riksbank (the Swedish Central Bank) stopped ordering banknotes from them. Instead, they gave new contracts to DeLaRue.
So, the latest 100kr series -- series J -- was printed by DeLaRue. While there is no difference in normal light conditions between these series there are under UV light.
The banknote on top is from series D, the one below from series J.

De-LA-Rue:-Currency-Printer-To-The-World


Likewise, there is the same difference under UV light between the 500 Kronor series G notes -- printed by DeLaRue -- and the series which were printed by Crane (series B, C, E, F).
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This is becoming an interesting thread!

Interesting info John100 (I did not know that there was $125 note prototype! & the TDLR consultations) What you wrote about the sad demise of the BABN & CBN printers makes me wonder if there was a switch of printers for the M-C $10 FTH, $20 BSW, $50 AMK & the $100 EKZ (all of which had so few discovered).


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The Dutch printer Joh. Enschede was founded in 1703 and printed the first Dutch banknote in 1814.


I'm sure there are many older printers out there. Very interesting Numised & I have found/fixed the link for the Dutch pioneer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh._Ensched%C3%A9
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Well, if you collect you should. >care about which co printed the note<
Here's an example why.

Very interesting example redlock!

Normally, I would agree as well but the only single time I can remember the 2 printers being relevant is when the BABN printed a tiny (89,000) batch of the R/C prefix for the 1954 Modified $5.00 note (BC-39a) with the Beattie-Coyne signature. (99% of the R/C prefix was printed by the CBN & has that imprint) Although our Charlton pegs it at $1350 in Gem, I'm sure a Coyne Towers Devil's Face C/C would sell for nearly the same since so few collectors really are on top of things (like printers, imprints & prefixes). The Modified series just "ain't as sexy." I've only seen one or two circulated examples of a BABN R/C $5 in the past 20 years.
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There is just not enough demand for banknotes in Canada today for two printers, G&D moved to Scarborugh area new plant and secure prints most of Canada"s drivers license and employee cards and other secure products. June 4 2019 on the Canadian currency forum I posted a topic De La Rue 125 test note there is the PMG photo of the example offered but it sold for over 20 K US I have recent info that BOC confirms the prototype and there was like 4 different designs of this note and was offered at the Berlin World money show many years ago. PMG seems to misslabel as GBR and did not notice this was Canadian test for our 125 celebrations, this would have been cool
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...June 4 2019 on the Canadian currency forum I posted a topic De La Rue 125 test note there is the PMG photo of the example offered but it sold for over 20 K US I have recent info that BOC confirms the prototype and there was like 4 different designs of this note and was offered at the Berlin World money show many years ago....


Very interesting! I will keep an eye out for that! Thanks for sharing.
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Correction of posting date is April 6 2019 regarding the 125 test note
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"That's nothing. The Dutch printer Joh. Enschede was founded in 1703 and printed the first Dutch banknote in 1814. They are still around today printing banknotes!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh._Ensched%C3%A9
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JEZ no longer produces banknotes, including Euros for Dutch use. The wikipedia site needs to be updated.

"Dutch security printers Royal Joh. Enschede have issued a press release advising that, following a change to their strategy, they will soon stop producing banknotes due to over capacity in the banknote market.

Instead, the company will focus on being a High Security Printer in the international market for Stamps, Visas and Tax Labels, as well as brand protection.

The company's banknote division will therefore be closed, resulting in "a considerable loss of jobs". Staff were advised of the situation yesterday, on 1 December 2016."
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