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Would This Qualify As FS On A Jefferson Nickel?

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Hello I have a nickel and I was wondering if this would qualify for a Full Steps let me know what you guys opinions are thanks.
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The main reason I'm asking is because it's a very difficult date to find with a FS designation on that year. It's from a mint set I checked probably close to 100 or so mints of this date and probably more than half were just raised mush. You will find many with 3 maybe 4 lines but then there's a little nick or something and it messes them up. I pulled this one to the side it's a beautiful coin starting to turn almost like a gun barrel blue. Honest opinion because I'd like to send it in just to see what it'll grade out. It's still in the original mint cellphone so the pic is blurry but if you look under the N in Monticello it almost 6 clear lines going up.
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I don't think it would get the Full Steps designation.
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My understanding for the FS criteria is that the steps must be complete and unbroken. Thus even a small hit or die crack, etc... could be considered a break in the step. Please correct me if I am wrong but the area of the steps between the C and E of Monticello appears to break the steps. Plus the very first step is almost non existent.
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If this is considered FS I don't know it might have a chance. Thanks for the replys and your opinions guys. If you guys were wondering the date it's a 1976D. I think there's only a couple of ms67 fs ever been graded and one I think from what I heard is in a private collection. It's a very valuable coin in high grades hard to find out of over 100 individual cut out from mint sets nickels I checked this this probably one the nicer ones I've found
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I say no
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Here's an image of a MS67 FS and the second one of a MS66 FS for the same date from the PCGS website.
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I believe PCGS and NGC have different criteria for FS designation. Your coin might make it if seen by a generous grader.
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I always find this subject coonfusing.
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coinfrog. inconsistency with this designation. for me it can't have any mark or scratch or ding or anything across or on any of the steps. for the examples you show here I would not pay FS for. buy the coin not the slab applies.
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I think it all boils down to whether you use the FS designation literally or as an indication of strike quality and die state. In my book, all the steps need to be there, but a nick across them wouldn't disqualify.
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May have missed it... What year is this coin, and which mint?
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@ijn: the nickel is a 1976-D.
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Honestly, a lot of the reference images on PCGS are puzzling. By their own published criteria, the two nickels you showed are not Full Steps.

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If you think your nickel can grade 66 or 67, that's a home run. I did notice that the retail price for a MS65 won't even cover the cost of grading.
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I'm in the Q David Bowers camp in which steps are a measure of strike quality, something that cannot be changed by subsequent hits. I think NGC would find your coin 5 FS.
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Thanks for all the replys and opinions. I'll probably just put the coin away for now I've never had a coin graded or anything sent off or nor have I ever sold a single coin this is just a little hobby of mine but it's really interesting and there's so much to learn and keep learning that's why I like coin collecting and crh I like the hunt I don't know what to do with them but how much would it cost to have it graded maybe 60 70 bucks I'm just guessing o really don't know I mean if it grades MS 66 FS or higher pcgs has the price anywhere from 350 to 3500 I'll take a chance that why that's why I wanted to ask you guys thoughts just to make sure I'm not completely crazy it's a risk and I wouldn't just start sending in just random nickels for FS grading but this being a 1976D I know why they worth a little bit because it hard to find them I've seen many uncirculated examples you'll find many MS 65 MS 66 but not with 5 full lines from left to right it's they always roll over together at some point disturbing a full line I know the coin I posted has a little blush bit the lines are present from left to right and I see 5 full lines across. And that blemishes on the right towards the end is not nearly as bad as the pic makes it look like I said it's a really beautiful coin it's a has blue kind of purple tone to it kind of doesn't look like a nickel I like it so I'll keep it anyways thanks everyone for your opinions.
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