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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Much classier than mine. Not entirely sure if I see any wear at all, but I can't get a feel for the luster, if there is any.
Color looks a little odd, but it is probably the pics.
Maybe AU-58
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Difficult to grade from those pics.
What is the dot in front of Liberty ?
Watch your top knot
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Bedrock of the Community
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What is the dot in front of Liberty ? I am guessing it is a reflection on the plastic. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Random fun fact, there were branch mint proofs for 1895-O. Five of them are known to exist and all are very rare and very expensive.
This coin is not one of them, but it has an amazing reverse strike all the same. Obverse is weak, but this is also characteristic of 1895-O: even coins with fully struck reverses and prooflike surfaces often have very flat obverse strikes.
It's hard to tell what going on under the toning, but I think this coin would benefit from careful conservation on the reverse mostly, while preserving the iridescent obverse and reverse crescent toning if possible.
Tentative grade MS64
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Impossible to grade based on the fuzzy pics.
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Hard to get a feel for this one. I tend to think this is uncirculated and I don't see many marks. Knowing numismatic students tastes, this is probably a gem or better. Shot at the dark, I'll guess MS-66.
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eye appeal on the lower end with the blotchy toning. not even sure how much luster is hanging around under the toning based on these photos. the obv looks to have some slight wear on the high points. however the 95(O) is well known for weak soft strikes. I'm with pristine on this one AU58. I think this is one better graded in hand so that the coin can be rotated.
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https://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/3...008_2200.jpgSome of you may recognize this coin as it is featured on the PCGS Coinfacs page. This coin was part of the Illinois Set of Morgan dollars which was once the all-time highest rated Morgan dollar set in the PCGS registry in multiple categories. An article to that effect can be found here: https://www.coinnews.net/2019/06/25...-categories/This coin in MS66 is the second highest graded in the condition census. There are two graded MS66 and one graded at MS67 which sits in the Jack Lee Collection. Barry Stuppler has been trying to sell the coins in the set for a few years and this one is currently offered for $465,000 although I am guessing he would accept less. 
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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no way i'd pay 66 $$ for this coin...just me. I think its quite ugly and almost all CCF graders here called the coin AU58. not sure how you did that psuman08 but good call. buy the coin not the holder applies for me. yes the coin is pretty clean in the way of marks but I can't see how they can call this coin 66 with that eye appeal, blotchy toning moving towards the black and subdued luster.  |
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I think that's one of the weaknesses of the PCGS registry system. The points rating relies on the grade rather than more subjective criteria like eye appeal. But to be fair, there would be a lot of complaints and grousing if you introduced eye appeal into the rating system as it differs depending on the eye of the beholder.
In any event, registry competition has been a great success in pushing up prices at the top of the condition census which is great for dealers in this material but a game I don't choose to play. I like to buy the coin, not a bump in the registry which many people do today.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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At least I was fairly close with my 64 grade. 66 seems a bit much.
I don't trust the registry sets anymore. I've seen too many coins get grade bumps just because Famous Collector X submitted them for their top registry set and PCGS/NGC want to keep said collector's business.
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not sure how you did that psuman08 but good call. Lucky guess. If it had not been numismatic students coin, I probably would have been in the lower MS. I know ns always shares great coins, so I added a few points. |
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