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One Dollar Bill Wet Ink Serial Number Transfer Info, Please?

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Just started checking my money again, after ignoring it for years, and came accross this ditty. I know it's a bit beat up but this kind of error is new to me. Can anyone share any info on this type of error? How did it happen? Did somebody open the window and a breeze folded the sheet over? LOL. Seriously, any info would be greatly appreciated. Does it have any value or is it just too beat? Thank you. Looking forward to getting back into scoping my money. I want me one of those missing Cheerios Sacagawea dollars.
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Looks like PBEP "Post Bureau Engraving Printing" to me,but Steve is or go to guy on notes. Let's wait for him.
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It's hard to tell from the image - is the upper left "serial number" a mirror of the upper right? I.e, is that first digit a reversed 2 or 3?
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It appears the note might have gotten wet, folded in half (lengthwise) and pressed together causing the right side serial number and seal to transfer to the left side. All of this happened after it left the BEP.
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Thanks for the welcomes.


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It appears the note might have gotten wet, folded in half (lengthwise) and pressed together causing the right side serial number and seal to transfer to the left side. All of this happened after it left the BEP.


How would this happen? Money gets wet all the time and ink doesn't transfer. BTW: I'm just over in New Port Richey. How's the hurricane treating you? LOL


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It's hard to tell from the image - is the upper left "serial number" a mirror of the upper right? I.e, is that first digit a reversed 2 or 3?


Yes. The transfer is a mirror image of the serial number
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How would this happen?

My guess is, it was folded for an extended period of time or had a solvent involved.
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I agree with Steve, the serial and ink from the seal and ONE on the right side appears to have been transferred to the left side after the BEP, perhaps folding in half and getting wet is enough or was exposed also to certain types of chemicals after the folding.

Wet ink transfers happen when a sheet of currency paper does not enter the press, the inked printing plate will contact the impression cylinder. When the next and subsequent sheets enter the press, they receive both the intended printing on the correct side and an impression on the opposite side from the ink left on the cylinder. The transfer becomes lighter with each sheet and usually disappears within 8-12 passes. The first few passes have the boldest impressions of the error and they'll bring higher prices. Since 2013 some things changed so you would have to research sold listings in auction sites and ebay archives for 2013 and newer notes to see whats been found so far with regards to errors.
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Thanks everyone. Guess it just isn't as cool as I had hoped. Oh, well. The adventure continues. I've had a couple of nice error notes in the past that I eventually sold for good money. I kind of miss them now and am hoping to run across some nice ones again. Wish me luck. And good luck to you all. Later!

BTW: I can see how the bill was quad folded which would indicate the positioning of the transfer. Who knows what the owner could have been doing or using. As mentioned, probably a solvent of some kind. Thanks, again to you all.
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Who knows what the owner could have been doing or using.

As far as post-BEP trauma on paper money, I've all but given up hope in knowing for sure how things happened. From Chopmarks to teller stamps and miscellaneous graffiti, it's all mostly educated guesswork. We typically know when it's not a legitimate error note which usually ends newbie curiosity.
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