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Coin Jewelry 2 Korona I. Ferenc József

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 Posted 09/07/2023  6:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NewCoinKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello All,
This was given to me as a gift.
I was wondering if I could sell these separately? If they're worth anything.

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Welcome to the CCF, NewCoinKid!
According to Numista, each of these coins is 10 grams of 0.835 silver, for a total of total actual silver weight of 8.35 grams each. Separating them by removing the soldered rings will render them simple bullion coins.
You could probably get much more for it as a piece of jewelry.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10991.html
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It's a sad fact that, having been soldered together in this fashion, they are generally considered to have lost their numismatic value.

On my visits to Munich, I have seen quite a few pieces of this character (which seem to be called by the Germans "charivari", a word elsewhere of quite different signification) for sale, although rarely composed entirely of one type of coin. I have often been tempted to buy a piece or two, but have been deterred by the price.
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Thank you for the warm welcome. And Thank you for your suggestion Hondo Boguss. I have a necklace as well with Haiti 10 Centimes 1882-84
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Thank you publius. Yes its breaks my heart they have been soldered together :-(
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Also a nice piece of jewelry, NewCoinKid!
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4877.html
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There is value here, but not a great deal I'm guessing.



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Those coins are Franz Joseph, and I see different years of the coins. I can not see well the years. Those coins are soldered with Silver and a rare year will not be affected by the removal. In North American colleting the coins loose theirs numismatic value, on European vision not if it is an rare or semi-rare coin. What is bad it is because been mounted and used will have heavy circulation marks. Nice piece and a very nice gift you receive.

PS: I saw the years except one which I believe it is 1913. I will go to see this series because the Austrian 2 Korona was different design. In any case those coins was strike only in 1912-1913.
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In my city, these sort of things sell only for bullion or a bit more. If separated they would sell for even less, as nobody would want a damaged coins since none are rare. I collect this sort of stuff myself, but only for bullion.
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NewCoinKid,
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I would leave them as-is. it appears to have been constructed very well, and it was probable 'soldered' with silver solder as well. If you are to sell it I would not change a thing.
This was assembled a very long time ago.
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I would agree with the sentiments above. Once a coin (or in this case, a whole pile of coins) has been turned into jewellery, unless the coin is a super-rarity, there's no point in trying to turn them back into coins again. They're now "art", and should be valued as art, rather than as coins.

If you know the origin of the jewellery, this might help with the value. This form of jewellery is common in several cultures, notably the Red Sea region of north-eastern Africa but also Turkey and the northern Middle East, and in the Indonesia-Malaysia region of Southeast Asia. Maria Theresa thalers are very commonly turned into ornate jewellery in Eritrea/Ethiopia/Yemen; we have seen several examples of their work posted on the forum before (example), but I've not heard of Austrian smaller silver coins being treated likewise. I have seen coins treated like this in Malaysia, though they always seem to use either British or Malayan silver coins, not "foreign coins" apart from the occasional American WWII-era coin.
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Sap, next time I'm in Munich, I should take some photos for you. Constructions like this, using older German and Austrian silver coins primarily, but sometimes jewelers' imitations, seem to have been exceedingly popular all through the 19th century and into the 20th. I'm not really sure how they were normally carried or worn in all cases, but I can tell you that some I have seen were definitely watch-chains or watch-fobs, which naturally appealed to me, since I have the habit of carrying a pocket watch. Also I have seen quite a variety of stick-pins and tie-bars, that kind of thing. From what I can tell they were a favoured holiday finery of the country-people, hence probably the term "charivari", which might be used for the celebrations attending a wedding.
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Good Evening Everyone,
I want take this time to thank you all for your help and greetings :-)
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