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£25 Mule Coin Trying To Find Any Information

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 Posted 09/11/2023  1:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Colonelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
£25 british 2019 coin (damaged) which I presume is a mule, was wondering if anyone has any ideas as to its value or any other information.
Many thanks
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 Posted 09/11/2023  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Not quite sure why you think this is a mule? Seems to be as issued - see:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces355963.html
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Hi paddy
Its composition is copper I just assumed a mule was some type of dye test coin. the link you provided is definitely this coin, however the coin in the link is solid silver I can recall seeing a gold one also.
I can't find any way to value it most of the free online coin valuation service either don't reply or tell me they are unsure of value
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
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 Posted 09/11/2023  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah - the metal was unclear. I thought the yellowish colour was just due to poor lighting.
It is possible that it was a trial strike at the mint - the Commonwealth Mint, not The Royal Mint. As this is an unofficial mint, producer of a huge number of these non-circulating souvenir coins, the escape of a trial strike is nothing like as sought after as an escapee from The Royal Mint.
The only other possibility I can think of is some attempt by a forger, but I can't see why anyone would bother!
As to value, almost impossible to say. Nothing to compare it with, but not exactly a key collecting area, so in the end "whatever someone is prepared to pay for it"!
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 Posted 09/11/2023  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And just to clarify: a "mule" is a specific kind of mint error, where two dies from two different coins are accidentally used together to make a coin. Like using the "heads" side from a 2p coin and the "tails" side from a 10p. Or a New Zealand 2 cent "tails" with a Bahama Islands 5 cents "heads".

What you allegedly have would be a "wrong planchet", where a blank metal disk that was the correct size, but made of the wrong metal, was fed into the dies. But I would not be entirely certain of this - I suspect it might simply be a normal silver coin that has been plated, either by the mint that made it or by someone else. Don't know why anybody would take a silver coin and copper-plate it, but people do odd things sometimes. I am inclined to think this, because looking at the rim, down below the words "Victoria" and "Pounds", the copper colour seems to be wearing off, showing a more silvery colour underneath.

What you'd need to do is to weigh it. Getting a specific gravity (density) test on it would also help, to determine what it's made of, whether it's solid copper or just copper-plated.
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 Posted 09/12/2023  04:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spyro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello. This is one of those items issued by firms like Pobjoy (who mint coins for the Isle of Man), Westminster Collections, or London Mint Office, and that's why it's a slightly unfamiliar profile of Her Maj. These issues aren't to be confused with stuff from The Royal Mint. This is why it says it's from Alderney, one of the Channel Islands. These firms churn out loads of commemoratives, and if that's really what you want to collect fair enough, but there isn't much in the way of a secondary market for them. Sorry I can't be more help.
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 Posted 09/12/2023  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colonelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly gentleman I can't thank you enough for the information you have provided its much appreciated
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