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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Hi there. It's been a long time since I've posted about Thalers (or Talers if you like), but I recently acquired one dated 1760 and this has renewed my spirit of adventure. I'm wondering if there's anyone in the forum who collects them, and would like to compare notes or chat, cos they're a fascinating branch of our excellent hobby...
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm partial to the Shooting Thalers...purchased the 1883 Swiss 5 franc Lugano a while back. Fascinating stories and coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1156 Posts |
I have two and both are from 1760. I'll try to remember to post some photos when I get home tonight.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think they are plentiful as re-strikes?
Probably what I had before selling off my coin collection.
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Moderator
 Australia
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1780 is the common restrike date, not 1760. Empress Maria Theresa died in 1780, which is why that particular year was originally restruck.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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United States
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Yeah I guess I wasn't thinking of the dates and don't recall the Thalers I had. About Shooting Thalers: Quote:
I'm partial to the Shooting Thalers...purchased the 1883 Swiss 5 franc Lugano a while back. Fascinating stories and coin. My good friend Craig Keplinger was known as a dealer for these at the coin show circuits. Maybe group members here acquired Swiss coins or Shooting Thalers from him. |
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Valued Member
 United Kingdom
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Glad to hear from you. I did some trawling and found a mine of information from Austrokiwi from about 10 years ago. Just bought a 1760 one myself. Lovely old coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here's one of mine:  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1156 Posts |
Here's the other with a Madura Island countermark  |
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Russian Federation
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Neat coins! There's so much focus on the 1780 restrikes that the originating pre-1780 type feels obscure in comparison.
The first 1760 coin looks like the same(ish) type as the restrikes (with some differences in the arms apparently), the second one is a different (Hungarian-themed) reverse - can't recall having seen one of those before!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I suppose this one also counts as a MTT, albeit a kronenthaler minted in Brussles  |
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 United States
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Nice coins. I think a side-by-side comparison of the 1760 and 1780 busts would show quite a difference, too. As for the kronenthaler ... nah ... we want our MTTs to have a bust of her majesty  |
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United Kingdom
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Cool! I particularly like the one with the countermark. (Spellchecker kept trying to write Medusa! Perish the thought!) That variety is known as a"Presentation type" cos it's Mary and the infant Jesus on the reverse. The whole range of the Thaler gets me because there's something like 150 varieties altogether. Nearly all of my little collection are dated 1780 but I live in hope...
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Just had another look at jgenn's pic. Nice! Same date as mine. Detail differences in shield on reverse (possibly a different mint - there were several), and mine has armour on her shoulder rather than drapes, similar to the Guenzberg strikes from 1765. I'll try and put some pics up later.
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Sweden
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we want our MTTs to have a bust of her majesty Agreed - a Maria Theresia thaler should have Maria Theresia on it, otherwise it is not an MTT! My 1765 MTT has a different bust, otherwise quite similar to the 1760 version:  For comparison with the 1780 restrikes, here is an early one, struck 1781-1788 (Günzburg mint). Again, updated bust, and a different coat of arms:  The restrikes continue until today, here is one from around 2018 (Vienna mint):  |
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United States
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Edited by livingwater
09/16/2023 11:08 am
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