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ICCS Or CCCS For Colonial Tokens?

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 Posted 09/16/2023  07:16 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,
I have about two dozen pre-confederation tokens that I'm contemplating getting graded. They're mostly New Brunswick and Nova Scotia if that's relevant. I'm wondering whether people would recommend ICCS or CCCS for grading purposes?
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 Posted 09/16/2023  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ICCS.

Had a bad experience with CCCS and am not using them anymore.
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 Posted 09/16/2023  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent off a handful of tokens to CCCS because #1 I didn't want to wait months for NGC or PCGS, #2 Since I was keeping everything north of the border I picked CCCS over ICCS because I wanted the hard holder.

I had 1 come back with the coin mounted upside down & showing wrong side (coin was mounted correctly but put in the holder backwards). No one obviously looking at the slab after it's been sealed.

I had 2 that are issues that are known for weak strikes (MS looks like a 40) but they should know that, and the other 2 were just baffling as to how they came to the grade they assigned.

The real kicker for me was I sent 4 in from the Doug Robbins collection and only 3 received the notation.

I'm not "complaining" because I didn't get the grades I wanted, bottom line is that the whole experience seemed very inconsistent and somewhat lazy.

Bad day at the grader's table I guess.

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Interesting. My experience with both (limited though it is) has been solid. ICCS missed a blundered I in Victoria on an 1858 20 cent that I sent them but otherwise everything that's gone to them came back very close to expectation. Same experience with CCCS.

Though, the thing about the tokens is that they are so much less regular in layout that they're much harder to grade. When you've got a pile of Queen Victorias to look at you know what to look for. If you're looking at an 1859 E.L. Lydiard the comparators are pretty limited.

Anyway, ICCS it is. Thanks folks. @Johnnysprawl, I would be curious to hear your story from CCCS if you care to share....
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 Posted 09/16/2023  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was a recent submission for a counterbrockage cent that both SPP-Ottawa and Mike Diamond confirmed.

Louis at CCCS said he never puts counterbrockage on the holder, so I had to send it back and pay for another recertification to get it on the slab.

http://goccf.com/t/413525
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 Posted 09/16/2023  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow - that is surprising to me. Not an area I know a lot about but that is a dismissive response.
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 Posted 01/07/2024  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billfrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My opinion , unless they are rare varieties or high grade I would not even grade them . Token collectors generally ignore the slab ( mainly because the grading is wrong) and buy the token
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 Posted 01/10/2024  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed. On tokens and errors sometimes the slab itself gets in the way of attributing varieties/errors. So if the slabber gets anything wrong it may never be discovered.
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