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2017 Frederick Douglass Quarter With Cud Error?

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 Posted 09/18/2023  10:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add FloridaCoinsJay to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone thanks for stopping by, I am new to the forum and just had a question about this 2017 Frederick Douglass Quarter, I found while metal detecting on the beach.

This quarter has a large bulge on the front covering the nose and face of Washington. On the back, there is a similar bulge, I was wondering if anyone knew if this was an error coin such as a " Cud" Error.
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 Posted 09/18/2023  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To CCF! Nope, this coin has been damaged outside of the mint. PMD. A Cud would involve the rim and some parts of the field. http://cuds-on-coins.com/
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 Posted 09/18/2023  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin looks to match number 10 in the list of Dirty Dozen Damages. Even though there is no premium value to these, you might try to find a nice example of each.

1) discoloration - stains from a beverage, or environmental damage from being buried, heated, etc.
2) scrapes over much of the coin - damage from sliding on pavement, a parking lot coin
3) coin bent or edges not round - it has been smashed with a hammer
4) coin blank on all or most of one side - someone machined the surface away or sanded it down
5) mirrored lettering - a vise job, a coin squeezed against another in a vise
6) rough, pebbly surfaces - a coin eroded by acid, it might now be underweight
7) smooth rims, smaller diameter - was trapped rolling inside a dryer, a " Dryer Coin", or tapped with a spoon
8) clear mounds on coin - glue that has dried transparently
9) small indentations in the shape of the letter D - marks left by the impact of the reeded edge of another coin
10) large blisters - coin exposed to high heat, such as in a campfire
11) shapes, often letters or numbers, not indented or raised - Pareidolia (like animal shapes in a cloud)
12) a circular scrape just inside the rim - " Ring of Death" caused by a coin wrapping or vending machine

Don't despair! Error coins remain ready to find from circulation, but they are outnumbered by unusual looking coins that merely have been damaged. If you can imagine a way to change an undamaged coin into one like you see, that's probably exactly what happened to it. Changes to a coin after it leaves the mint's striking chamber are considered post mint damage, or PMD, and have no premium value.
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 Posted 09/19/2023  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
FloridaCoinsJay,

Looks like heat damage after it left the mint, PMD. Pic of other side would be helpful.
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 Posted 09/19/2023  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FloridaCoinsJay to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi thanks to everyone who replied so quickly and everyone else who may have taken some time to check out my post. Awesome, though, was really hoping I just paid off my metal detector with one coin & & but I shall keep searching and collecting hoping for something cool, thanks again everyone.
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Agree, heat damage.



to the CCF!
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whats on the other side?
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to the CCF and heat.
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Agree with the heat determination(s) above.
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Hi thanks everyone for the welcomes and advice, I had trouble sizing the pictures to fit but the back side has Frederick Douglass but the bulge is about the same as on the front so it appears to have swollen from inside
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