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If someone can interpret kufic script, what do the legends say? I have, from the previous owner, the information that the obverse may be like the center legend in Walker, B.62 (116 H). But I am not sure. Then it would be the standard There is no god but Allah, one ?, it has no companion ? And on the reverse God is one, god is eternal, ? |
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Yes, you are correct. It follows the basic Umayyad pattern. "There is no god but Allah. He is alone. There are no others with Him. // Allah is One. Allah is Eternal. He begets not nor was He begotten". It belongs to group XX-b in R. Frochoso Sanchez (2001), Los Feluses de al-Andalus, Madrid, pp. 48-49. Although Frochoso cites many examples in various collections, there is no definitive reading due to the fabric and calligraphy. The margins presumably contain the mint (al-Andalus) and date. Reported dates include 125, 128, 152 and 156, suggesting that the type began during the period of the governors and continued into the emirate. For convenience, Frochoso includes them among issues of the governors. The thick fabric is more in line with earlier coins. In his Checklist of Islamic Coins, Album classes them under the emirate as #346.
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10/01/2023 05:57 am
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Thank you very much. I had noticed your answers to previous questions about these coins and was hoping you could help with this.
I have quite a number of others from the same era still to properly classify. About most I only know the region they were found in.
Frochoso's is now the reference book for these coins?
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Frochoso is the best place to start, yes. There's no one perfect complete reference however.
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@kush, I'm really glad to have you here and participating on CCF. Also, I don't want to hijack this thread, but have a tangential question that could be a good learning opportunity.
In the past, I have typically recommended that folks start with Album's catalog when diving in to these sorts of coins. Can you please help me to understand what about Frochoso is better? Depending on your answer, I might need to add another book to my numismatic library... Thx.
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@Spence Frochoso is specifically about the early Islamic copper coins found in Spain (so by extension, North Africa as well). It's a small volume and the only work I'm aware of that concentrates on this series. It's in Spanish but not especially text heavy. My copy cost only $15 a decade ago. I had to have it mailed from Europe. The postage ended up being more than the price of the book. Maybe $40 total.
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10/01/2023 8:06 pm
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I have yet to find myself a copy of Frochoso. Thanks I believe that it is the best book about these copper coins. Good that there is at least one. I liked one of his papers about dirhams.
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Ok yes I understand now, Frochoso is specific to a single metal and a specific region. That helps me to understand-thx!
@jec, it looks to me like there is a seller in Cadiz, Spain with this book on abe.com.
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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@jec, it looks to me like there is a seller in Cadiz, Spain with this book on abe.com. Thanks. I think I can source it locally, if now will look there. |
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