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1812 Capped Bust Half NGC: More Budget Numismatics

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She's got some flaws (not to mention some serious die rotation). But the color is natural enough, I think, and there's plenty of nice detail.

A low-ball bid won her for 44% of the "PCGS guide price" for the grade. What say you?

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 Posted 10/03/2023  03:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is VF.
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Pancake. VF-20?
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 Posted 10/03/2023  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
based on previous experience PCGS does not know how to grade these. i'd call it VF30 I'm going to say PCGS called it VF25. I wish I knew what they look at on these
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Admit to being clueless on these.
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I suggest that you don't use the "PCGS guide price" as your guide.
The Greysheet is a much more accurate guide to prices.
It's pricy but you don't need a monthly subscription.
I get it 4 times a year but 1 or 2 a year is plenty good.

And then there is always spending the time searching auction results.
ebay is the easiest but the other auction houses are more accurate as long as you take into account their buyer's premium.
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VF-30. Did you get this at the Heritage Sale last night?
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VF25. Very original and attractive. Won't argue with 30.

David Kahn would love this one (and the other one you posted recently.) One thing we both have in common is a preference for darker or crusty original-surface Bust coinage.

It's in an NGC holder, so I'm confused as to why PCGS is being mentioned apart from the price guide.

PCGS price guide values tend to reflect wishful thinking more than actual market data; searching past auctions by grade is a safer alternative, although auction records can be out of step with market trends.
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I'm going to say VF-35, nice coin and really like the rotation.
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Did you get this at the Heritage Sale last night?


Yep. I'd tossed in a low bid a couple of weeks ago, wary of that disturbance under the ear. Was surprised to see it succeed.


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It's in an NGC holder, so I'm confused as to why PCGS is being mentioned apart from the price guide.


I find the PCGS guide useful. I'm pretty sure it is the most accessed free-to-air listing, it's conveniently paired with usually reliable research material and it is frequently updated. As a rule, I assume a good retail price to be below 60% of the PCGS price.

I use Greysheet, too, but I doubt most amateur buyers do. NGC's price guide often sits un-updated for months or years ... I hardly use it at all.

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Got one right, been on a "losing" streak lately!

Lovely coin. Looks even better in those photos.
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i don't know why I called it PCGS

anyway NGC has the same problem imo. someone tell me how they handle strike vs wear on these. as a side note I had the grade right
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someone tell me how they handle strike vs wear on these.


They are so inconsistent, there is no answer to this question.
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Grade seems reasonable
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