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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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a 1964 Specimen - 66 Ultra Heavy Cameo Silver Dollar.
Any info on an estimate of the trends price would be appreciated.
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't believe the reports include cameos for either specimen or business strike coins. Cameo populations are only counted for PL and NBU coins.
The coin you mention would likely have a population of one. There is no price guide for unique coins.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If it helps any, my latest Charlton book (2020) for a 1964 SP65 dollar is valued at $625.00.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Thanks, the info helps.
I'm thinking the coin should be worth at least $1,000.00.
Not selling it (yet) as I need to do further research on it.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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A few years ago I sold a pcgs 65 dcam with great eye appeal for around $600, don't remember exact price. Also purchased a 67 in old pcgs (potential dcam) for about $450. This was pre covid price boom. I would think $800-1000 for a nice example would be very doable, based on memory of recent cnc auction prices. They are out there, but not always available which makes pricing hard. Pictures would be great  Edited by purelywasted
10/08/2023 3:39 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I saw that the canadianNumismatic auction back in 2011, sold an ICCS 1964 $1 SP67, Heavy Cameo for $1400, so I'm thinking my coin, with one grade lower, but with a higher UHCameo designation, might be very comparable.....also, 2011 wasn't the best time to be selling coins either.
Edited by doubleeagle59
10/08/2023 7:29 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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The 2016 ICCS pop report for the 1964 1$ lists
3 SP60, 4 SP63, 36 SP64, 22 SP65, 33 SP66 and 6 SP67.
There is no recognition of cameos.
Hope this helps
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Taiwan
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It is my understanding that ICCS is much more liberal in their designation of cameos as they only take the obverse into consideration. With PCGS both sides have to have strong cameos.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Interesting that PCGS has none listed as SP (unless I'm blind) but has 18 PR, 14 PRCAM, and 27 PRDCAM. NGC only shows PL.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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For some reason pcgs calls specimen coins from the 1964-67 "Proof" or "Pr".
Not sure about 1968, but 1969 goes back to Specimen.
Edited by purelywasted
10/09/2023 2:57 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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Quote:
Not sure about 1968, but 1969 goes back to Specimen. Thats where PCGS gets weird; PCGS decided the 1969 $1 and 1¢ are specimen but the other denominations (5¢-50¢) are still called proof. things get back to normal in 1970 and all are called Specimen (despite refusing to give any a cameo designation) ''Buy the very best, stretch to buy it. It means if you can't afford to buy it, buy it anyway."
-Steven Duckor
Edited by Dollar 1935
10/13/2023 12:38 pm
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Canada
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I think the higher grade DCAM/UHC 1964 Proof/Specimen dollars are a lot more prevalent than you are thinking. PCGS lists 7/66 5/67 and 6/68 in proof DCAM. PCGS DCAM designation is harder to hit than UHC is with ICCS as ICCS ignores the reverse while PCGS requires the reverse to be fully DCAM as well. Also that's only the ones that have been graded in the last few years since they started adding CAM and DCAM designations to PCGS coins, so quite a few of the non-designated ones in older holders are DCAM as well I'm sure. PCGS also has a history of grading proof as prooflike in 1964, as evidenced by the solo highest graded 1964 PL DCAM dollar (68) actually being a proof, not prooflike. I think you can assume there are dozens of high grade 1964 proof/specimen dollars that meet the requirement for UHC. Your 66UHC, while nice, has many higher grade ones out there to compete against. IMHO it's not worth anywhere near $1400 as you have alluded to. Just suggesting you keep your expectations realistic. Take a look at the 1964 PL plate coin graded 68. It's pretty much flawless and is a proof. https://www.pcgs.com/valueview/eliz...673815&h=pop br / |
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