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2005 P Jefferson Nickel OBV Die Break With REV Die Crack

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Here's another I just found. On the obverse there is what looks like a die break in the "O" of God. On the reverse is a short, narrow die break near the left hind hoof of the buffalo. A two-fer?

Opinions are much appreciated.


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Batting 1 for 2

The die chip in the O is a nice one.

The damage to the Bison's leg is just damage ( PMD)
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But there is a leg to rim die crack. (between United and Five - at K8. But nice die chip on the 'O' as well
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A Die Chip and a Die Crack
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On the die crack, I got into the habit of rotating the coin so the light plays on it in different fashion to weed out scratches or other damage. If you look closely at the die crack you'll notice two things. First, it has depth, most importantly in height. As a result, the second thing to notice is the die crack casts a short shadow.

Edit: On rereading Bstrauss' post, I see he/she is talking about the divot in the leg. Agree, it's just damage.
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Pretty neat. What is that between the two back legs—a scratch or a cointinuation of the crack?
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Chip and Crack, sounds like a new cereal.
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Not seeing a die break. I see a die chip and a die crack.
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The difference between a die crack (a raised line from rim of coin) and die break (a raised line but the line is broken with space between them).
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For John1, here's a definition provided by Bing. I could not find a defintion in CCF. So John1 is correct. I'm still learning John1. Thanks for helping me.

"A die chip is a small piece of the die face that has broken off, leaving a void into which coin metal rises. It is usually up to 1 mm in length.

On the other hand, an interior die break is a void encompassing an area of 4 square millimeters or more that qualifies as an interior die break. Any void that covers less than 1 square millimeter is a die chip "
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Then we have the RIDB's (Retained Interior Die Break) where the die breaks apart on the interior but the piece dies not fall out. This can be seen often with Lincoln Cent coins on the head.
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Quote:
What is that between the two back legs


I'll have to check that but I think it's either a scratch or debrie (sp?)

Edit: Trash
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mike31093,
Here is a link to bookmark: http://www.error-ref.com/
You can look up definitions of all kinds.
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Thanks for the link, John1. Added to my bookmarks.

BTW...now that I've found 2 nickels with die cracks what do I do with them other than not spend 'em. Are they worth more than face value?
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I think they are more of a "fun find" with little if any premium. But you collect what you like.
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