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Counterfeit 2023 American Silver Eagles

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There have been a flood of listings on ebay for 2023 American Silver Eagles. They all use a stock image of a genuine silver eagle, but if you buy them, you get counterfeit coins. Here is an example. I have highlighted two easy to see differences (of many).
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The back foot isn't right either. Those are some major differences. Thanks for the information nss-52
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If you ordered a 2023 silver eagle, and you receive the coin on the left, be sure to report it to ebay as item received not as described (counterfeit).
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nss-52, thank you for the comparison. Unfortunately, these are probably being sold by "fly by night" sellers who will be gone by the time the fake is delivered.
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Many of the sellers state they ship from a location in the United States, but they are registered in Israel, Morocco, Poland, UK. I knew they would be counterfeit when I ordered them. They came in a nondescript envelope with a return address that turned out to be a Walmart in Katy, TX.
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I would never buy PMs from some random person on ebay. I don't care how good the deal is.
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I don't know why, but I've also seen many fakes coming out of Katy, Texas.
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Yes, I see a lot of differences. Just out of curiosity, what are the weights, diameter and thickness? They have been getting better at creating alloys that mimic accurate weights.
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Ankle laces are wrong also. On YouTube I've seen a fake 2023 silver eagle without the edge notch and one fake with the lame edge notch, so easy to fake.
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31.4g
40.57mm
3.24mm thick
the missing reed is about 3:00 o'clock
not magnetic
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Diameter is very close to specs but the thickness and weight are greater than specs. The thickness especially should be a clear give away that they are bogus.
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If you're buying on ebay check the feedback and make sure they have a descent amount of sales.
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The people that buy these are looking at only at the three Ps. Price, Price, and Price.
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