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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's tedious, dry and boring to them.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I recently attended the ANDA* Money Show at Sydney Town Hall.
I was one of over 2,000 attendees. More than 30% of them were female; - I would guess that perhaps half of those females had a male companion.
I would also guess that a close relationship with the male companion may have provided most of the reason why the (guesstimated) 15 % of the female attendees were there.
*Australian Numismatic Dealers Association
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
7167 Posts |
Quote: I think kbbpll is close to the mark: it's a self-propagating stereotype. Your archetypical "coin collector", in the public eye, is an older white guy. If those three adjectives don't belong to you, then you're in the minority among coin collectors. I agree. My real profession is/was in engineering, which also has a notorious gender gap. Despite the percentage of women graduating with engineering degrees increasing over the last two generations, the percent actually employed in the field remains below 20% for a number of reasons, including this self-perpetuating aspect (often just referred to as "overwhelmingly male culture"). Maybe the same in numismatics.
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United States
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Quote: More to do with the quality (and quantity) of the blokes who attend these things than of the coins on display.
It is a real turn-off for "youngish" females to be ogled more than the coins are. Thanks, I was hoping someone would come right out and say it. As a man I didn't feel qualified to make this observation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2031 Posts |
My dad first got me (a male) interested in coin collecting when I was about 12 years old. He brought out the Whitman Lincoln Penny folders he had assembled when he was a kid. He also showed me his copy of the Red Book. I remember being fascinated that this book had information about every coin ever minted by the U.S. mint. As I began my own Lincoln Penny collection, I yearned to talk about it with someone besides my dad. I asked some of my (male) friends at school if they collected, but none did. My little sister (who is one year younger than me) and I had always been very close growing up, so I started showing her the Whitman folders and the coins I had begun to accumulate in the hope she would catch the numismatic bug as I had. She seemed a least somewhat interested, and I can remember her sounding enthusiastic about buying some proof sets. But, alas, that fell by the wayside. We never talked about coins again. Outside of the good folks on this website, of all the people I've ever known--male or female--none have been coin collectors. Even the guy at the local coin shop seems more of a businessman than a coin collector.
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 Canada
959 Posts |
There are females in leadership positions within North American organized numismatics at the national, regional and local levels. This is very encouraging and hopefully can be seen by other female collectors as role models. Hardly any females at my local club and no female dealers at the local shows I attend besides the ones helping their husbands. It would be great for my daughter to see some more when I take her to these. I've tried to get my wife interested, but she has zero interest. I think all we can do is try to make people (women, minorities, etc) feel welcome and be inclusive at events.
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Valued Member
Portugal
478 Posts |
Quote: I noticed this in other areas of collecting. Same observation by me here. It applies to other areas of collecting. Quote: To my thinking, a better question would be as follows: why haven't the new demographics of coin collectors decided to attend shows? Can be a matter of available money to younger people? There are bargains in coin shows. The piles of pick your coin for 1 or 3 or 5 € or $. But people who bother to attend intend to spend more than a little?
Edited by jecz79 10/24/2023 12:55 pm
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New Member
United States
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Hi folks, I am a female coin collector. As a girl, I watched my Grandma look through her magnifying glass at coins, and she always had stacks of coin guide books and coins on the coffee table when we went to visit. She gave US coins every time, and I still have them. I valued them as a young girl, and put them in my treasure box, and as I grew up, I added my old coins along the way. It wasn't until covid hit, that I really got into the hobby. I wish I had girlfriends who want to talk coins, but none of them are into it. My husband's eyes glaze over when I talk coins also! I love the one coin show we get once a year, and I, am usually the only woman there. So yes, I am now a huge coin enthusiast, thanks to my Grandma, and really enjoy this forum and your expert opinions. Thank you, I have learned so much from you all! Julie (up coin creek)
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 United States
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tdziemia said: Quote: My real profession is/was in engineering, which also has a notorious gender gap. Despite the percentage of women graduating with engineering degrees increasing over the last two generations, the percent actually employed in the field remains below 20% for a number of reasons, including this self-perpetuating aspect (often just referred to as "overwhelmingly male culture"). Maybe the same in numismatics. As a fellow engineer, I feel obligated to point out that what you described is a very American phenomenon. I have worked on multiple international engineering teams. Some cultures seem to have a much more gender-balanced population of engineers—notably Chinese and Indian software engineers—and others are highly skewed like us. Different demographics in different cultures chose different professions at different rates. I don't know that you could ever achieve a 45/55 gender split in American engineering, any more than you could naturally arrive at a 45/55 gender split in American primary education, for example. Is coin collecting like that? I don't know. My gut feel is that coin collecting is plenty diverse when all types of modern coin collecting is considered (CRH, casual collecting, low budget small collections, inherited coin caches, etc.). If we view it through the lens of traditional coin collecting from 30 years ago (album filling, set collecting, big $$$ coin purchases), then maybe we shouldn't be surprised if the population looks like coin collectors from 30 years ago plus some minor fluctuations.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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jecz79 said: Quote: Can be a matter of available money to younger people? There are bargains in coin shows. The piles of pick your coin for 1 or 3 or 5 € or $. But people who bother to attend intend to spend more than a little? Maybe? My guess is that it's a supply vs. demand thing. I am going to a coin show next month, but as primarily a coin roll hunter, I have no idea if I will find anything useful for CRH. At least, anything better than I could find on Amazon, ebay, and the Internet. I would love to be wrong, which is why I am going. I am reminded of another hobby, geology. The rock and mineral shows draw a good mix of people by offering both specimens and jewelry. That helps it to be more of a family trip, where everyone can find something interesting for an hour of time. They also do a good job of having stuff for kids, not just giveaways but also little science exhibits and demonstrations. One of the best ones I saw was a guy making glass ornaments with a blowtorch. People were mesmerized. You buy the kiddos a few fossilized shark teeth and quartz crystals, eat a hot dog, problem solved.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I think kbbpll is close to the mark: it's a self-propagating stereotype. Your archetypical "coin collector", in the public eye, is an older white guy. If those three adjectives don't belong to you, then you're in the minority among coin collectors. I'll be in the minority and disagree. Take the example outside of coin collecting, let's say skateboarding. Skateboarding has a stereotype of juvenile delinquents that cause trouble and smoke. I am not a delinquent and I don't smoke, but I skate anyway, even though I sometimes don't fit in with the crowd. Point being if someone wants to do something, they'll do it, especially if they are passionate. I think it is simply an interest that fails to develop with the female brain. Same idea with other "manly" things such as welding, car repair, or roofing. Of course there are exceptions, but the vast majority proves that. Perhaps there are countless female collectors out there in the world, but they are rarely seen in a professional sense. I do not recall a US coin reference that was written by a female.
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Valued Member
Portugal
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Quote: I am reminded of another hobby, geology. The rock and mineral shows draw a good mix of people by offering both specimens and jewelry. That helps it to be more of a family trip, where everyone can find something interesting for an hour of time. Geology has another thing over coin collecting. It provides a nice excuse to go hiking 
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Valued Member
 United States
396 Posts |
Thank you all for the replies! My oldest sure liked the coins I got her at the show, and wanted to go back. So maybe we'll have another female coin enthusiast in 10 or 20 years. OK, maybe more like 20, until she can find a job to subsidize her future coin addiction. I'm going to put some of those coins inside flips for her tonight. Both of them really like flips for some reason, and compete with each other for the most number of flips.
Cheers!
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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Quote: Hi folks, I am a female coin collector. It's great, I wish you success in your hobby. It's strange that we guys missed the one we're talking about. Quote: Even the guy at the local coin shop seems more of a businessman than a coin collector. It's pretty weird. I don't think owning a local coin shop is a profitable business. If you look at the question more broadly, I see that there are quite a lot of female collectors. They just don't collect the things that men usually collect. Women collect dolls, magnets, plush toys, mugs (of unusual color and shape), etc. Maybe coins are just not what they are interested in?
Edited by Slerk 10/29/2023 04:04 am
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 United States
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I went to a coin show this weekend and paid attention to the attendees. I am happy to report it looked like an even mix.
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