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1867 IHC Strike Through On Reverse

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Found this beauty at a memorabilia auction being sold as a token. Weighs 3.1 though and looks great. Strike through on the E of ONE. 45 degree Rotated reverse.

Sending to PCGS me thinks.

Sorry in advance for the pictures, I never get good ones but I keep trying.


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 Posted 10/28/2023  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin appears to be a replica.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Not genuine. Easiest way to tell - it has the "Bold N" reverse, which was not used until 1870.
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The coin does have an odd look about it, like a cameo effect of wear. I don't see anything that says replica. The rotation is not listed on the rotateddies.50webs.com page, but there are a lot not listed there yet. Strong N does suggest a fake coin, and Rick Snow's book states that 1867 has a bunch of deceiving fakes out there.
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This is as fake as it gets.
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win some lose some, got a coin show in town next week so I will have it and a couple other questionable coins checks at the ANACS booth.

Thanks
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A genuine 1867 with a Bold N reverse simply does not exist.
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Quote:
Found this beauty at a memorabilia auction being sold as a token.
Which you should take at face value, except it's not technically a token, it's a fake.

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Strike through on the E of ONE.
It's just the crappy counterfeit die.
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I lost more than my fair share when I started. You learn and then come back and win!

While this coin is definitely a fake, make it a learning experience. Not money wasted if you learn from it.

I would highly suggest buying a guide like Rick Snows if you are going to collect Indian Head cents. That book as saved me more than once from a bad purchase!
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I paid token price for it so not a big deal.

Thanks for all the great advice.
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There's nothing to check at the Anacs booth.

This is a fake.

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If it is a counterfeit and not a novelty ANACS will turn it over to the Secret Service as I understand the info on their site.
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Get somebody with punches and stamp COPY on it in the right font size and it's perfectly legal. Not sure why you'd want ANACS to look at it though.
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kwork - if you let ANACS check this out, they'll confiscate it. That's actually not a bad thing - turn over the original auction house to the secret service. Maybe they'll stop importing illegal Chinese counterfeits.
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